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Post by Nemjen on May 21, 2016 16:43:51 GMT -8
Can confirm, for all of these missing asset throwbacks just press ignore and you'll be okay. To be honest it was only really the Ava route that threw these up, all the others running the decensor mod seem fine. According to the ending list she only has the one called 'time lord', if you've already triggered it you're ahead of the pack. Ah, okay. I was hoping for actual sex and not just a titjob. Who knows maybe Claude was actually configuring it into a sonic screwdriver device, considering we now have a new series thanks to that route 'Dr Shields and his Assistant'. Got your Dr Who reference afterall did you vaendryl ?
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Post by silverraven on May 21, 2016 19:47:53 GMT -8
So the ignore worked fine, but after completing Ava's Happy End, i cannot access [RE]turn. It is just darkened.
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Post by Samu-kun on May 21, 2016 19:57:17 GMT -8
I think most likely Steam blew up some save data when you re-validated. If you load a save from near the end of the main story and view the post credits scene again, it should unlock again. Or you can just jump to postcredits using the dev console.
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Post by silverraven on May 21, 2016 20:09:43 GMT -8
Tried to no success. Anything else that might help? Also, thank you so much for being patient with this scrub on the forums (me). You are a paragon of our age Samu-Kun.
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Post by Samu-kun on May 21, 2016 20:23:15 GMT -8
hmmmm, are you jumping using the console? In that case, can you try putting in legion_destroyed = True and then jumping to postcredits?
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Post by silverraven on May 21, 2016 21:05:49 GMT -8
How do i Jump to the credits? I Used the Legion Destroyed command, but i destroyed the legion anyway.
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Post by silverraven on May 21, 2016 21:13:45 GMT -8
Sorry, trying many different commands, I got it and the Return story is enabled again. Thank you so much, Sir. Sorry to annoy you.
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Post by Samu-kun on May 21, 2016 21:17:36 GMT -8
open the dev console and then type in the following
legion_destroyed = True
then press enter
then type in
jump postcredits
then skip through that
once you return to the main menu, check if REturn is now unlocked.
I don't really know the full situation, but loading a save from the main story near the end and hitting the end is a better solution, since the first hack will probably damage your save data dump for the next game.
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Post by Samu-kun on May 21, 2016 21:19:52 GMT -8
Huh, looks like you managed to fix it while I was typing. To fix the aforementioned save data dump, you'll have to load a save from the main story near the end and finish the game again once you're done checking out REturn sometime before playing the next Sunrider game.
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Post by quirriff on May 22, 2016 1:47:25 GMT -8
Hint: Don't trust Claude.
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Post by sehanine on May 22, 2016 2:36:58 GMT -8
Hmmm I don't think these are bugs in the game code since other people have triggered those scenes, did you install the new decensor patch correctly? (Not the public patch, use the patch which is on Patreon.) The patch should say V3.0 in the patch instructions. Also, make sure the files inside the patch aren't inside the patch folder in the /game/ directory. The individual files should be dropped into /game, not the entire folder itself. Yeah, I had the correct patch but a couple files were somehow missed on unzipping. False alarm. Thanks! Another correction, though: Asaga: "EEEHHH!?!? T-the Black Jack's takin' off with me!!!!" Should that be, "without me"? Also: "The pipe crashed against the energy shield, sending feedback jolting through his arm. But Shields mustered his strength. He wrapped himself around Alice, putting her into a sleeper hold as her energy barrier sheered through his uniform and flesh." "Sheered" should be "sheared". Also: "But a blink later, the she completely vanished from the universe." I'm not sure if there's a variable that has the value "she" there and might have some other value that would require an article, but in this case "the" before "she" should be removed.
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Post by admiralcheese on May 22, 2016 3:50:30 GMT -8
Hint: Don't trust Claude. Your God Empress might not like to hear that. Might have to disappear your whole universe... Just food for thought.
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Post by The Fall on May 22, 2016 4:21:20 GMT -8
Correction on Asaga's route if anyone has missed it. Just after you escape the Sunrider on the blackjack, it says;
"She kicked her foot pedal upwards, hitting the reverse boasters"
I believe that's meant to be 'boosters'
It also appears again three lines later.
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Post by Nemjen on May 22, 2016 4:22:22 GMT -8
So I got about an additional 3/4 hours of content out of my run, although I am sure this would be longer if you are not tactically saving at decision points (old habits die hard for Mags) and this was clearing all 18 endings (that includes thinking that changing his system clock to key days would trigger the Timelord ending). Just to add a few ad hocs breakdowns to round up my flagging for the weekend. The Good: + You get a good insight into how Kayto was thinking and behaving during the events of Liberation Day and how far the manipulation of the prototypes runs. + The meta humour was great and very entertaining, my personal favourite still remains the line about the difficulty mode of the Nightmare Ascendant. + Empowering the player by giving them the choice to kill off Chigara them self rather than letting Fontana hog the moment. The Bad - I am a bit disappointed Cosette did not make an appearance especially for the 'trapped' endings, while during the events of the DLC we are unsure if Kayto spared or allowed the death of Cosette the two could have been alternated depending on the path the player was currently on. Not that she needs a whole path, but more dialogue to flesh out his existence during the events of LD would have been nice. - Some of the early decisions like using the pistol to fight the drone in the 'crewman' choice will revert you back to a previous point after unlocking the bad end, while the later ones take you back to the main menu. While not a huge issue as it makes the early game decision making easier, it is inconsistent when it could be polished for all bad ends (something like Claude forcing you back in time to keep repeating until you are on a regular ending path). The Enhancements: * As I previously mentioned in the thread it would be nice to make the start menu for [Re]turn more interactive, at this time the endings cleared only serves to notify you of how many you have cleared. It would be good if we can either have a click through into that ending as a replay, or even just a text summary of what occurred in that ending - considering we have ending narrations from Claude it would be pretty cool to have text summaries in the same style. * Bundle in the Skirmish mode that Vaen was looking at. All in all I am happy with how the DLC has turned out. A question that is bugging me though and I would assume it is part of the Academy style foreshadowing: During the Time Lord ending Claude refers to Kayto's device as 'Ticktock Version 3.0', now if we assume the original 1.0 is the original that Claude has locked away - does that mean 2.0 is the device she operates or is there another device that is floating around the Sunrider universe? Is Crow using the same technology or is there another way to manipulate time in the Sunrider universe? Man it sucks that it is going to be a while until we get anymore Sunrider answers. Edit: I also wonder, are we going to get a concept art for what the new pilot of the Liberty would have looked like if the current series was in the 'our greatest adventure' timeline?
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Post by sehanine on May 22, 2016 9:08:23 GMT -8
"Sola's eyes grew dim as her breathes became ragged."
"breathes" should be "breaths" or "breathing".
Sola: "No... I'm afraid I am a poor chief. I have no culinary knowledge beyond what Far Port berries are edible and how to roast fish and wildlife."
I'm pretty sure that "chief" should be "chef".
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Post by vladek on May 22, 2016 10:34:10 GMT -8
okay, I've got now the secret Claude ending first and the Icari-happy ending 2nd.
I'm very happy with the DLC, had a lot of fun, just awesome to get such a expansion for free. will surly testing the other arcs!
the only thing that I would like to see !absolutely! is a menue where I can replay the endings I got (and see how much endings there are). Beside this the game is great, besides some spelling-error that have already been mentioned.
At least I have just a very big question @samu-kun / LiS: How is the further STory planned? I liked the LD2.0 ending after all; but with the DLC this one feels obsolates?! Which ending is canon? LD2.0 (Sunrider destroyed, intergalactic war, Sunrider crew scattered) or DLC (LD-Massacre did not take place; Chigara in Prison untill Alpha is hunted done; new crew Member; new adventures)? As I wrote, I like both endings, but my heart's ill if I don't know which one is canon :S
Greez Vladek
PS: As one of the honourfull Tsun-Warrior of Icari-sama's great Empire I can say that the Icari-Ending fits my taste. Approved from the Tsun-Prime Minister. Of course not because I liked it!
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Post by SharrOfRyuvia on May 22, 2016 11:13:21 GMT -8
okay, I've got now the secret Claude ending first and the Icari-happy ending 2nd. I'm very happy with the DLC, had a lot of fun, just awesome to get such a expansion for free. will surly testing the other arcs! the only thing that I would like to see !absolutely! is a menue where I can replay the endings I got (and see how much endings there are). Beside this the game is great, besides some spelling-error that have already been mentioned. At least I have just a very big question @samu-kun / LiS: How is the further STory planned? I liked the LD2.0 ending after all; but with the DLC this one feels obsolates?! Which ending is canon? LD2.0 (Sunrider destroyed, intergalactic war, Sunrider crew scattered) or DLC (LD-Massacre did not take place; Chigara in Prison untill Alpha is hunted done; new crew Member; new adventures)? As I wrote, I like both endings, but my heart's ill if I don't know which one is canon :S Greez Vladek PS: As one of the honourfull Tsun-Warrior of Icari-sama's great Empire I can say that the Icari-Ending fits my taste. Approved from the Tsun-Prime Minister. Of course not because I liked it! Menu says [RE]Turn is AU. In other words, none of it is cannon - none of it changes LibDay's story.
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Post by sehanine on May 22, 2016 11:14:39 GMT -8
Ava: "Captain... You are blind. The Kayto Shields struggling on the floor now is a far better captain that you are!"
"that" should be "than".
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Post by sehanine on May 22, 2016 12:01:40 GMT -8
I'm not certain if this is coincidence, but after I got Sola's good ending I started playing through Icari's route and, after choosing to not save the crewman and then choosing to use Lynn as a body double, I got to the following when in the hangar bay with Icari and Claude:
Kayto: "I'll try to beat a hasty retreat as soon as I can. Once we've regrouped, Claude will use the floor access hatch to relocate Chigara to maintenance room D4, Icari Sola runs to the mess hall and calls the other Kayto Shields out on the comm. I'll then use that chance to sneak into my office and send Fontana the encrypted call."
I'm not sure how "Icari Sola" got in there, exactly; I don't have the .rpy for [RE]turn (and I'm not going to convert the .rpyc since I don't know how to offhand).
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Post by sehanine on May 22, 2016 12:16:31 GMT -8
While repairing the backup communicator on Icari's route (possibly the same on others):
"Suddenly, sparks flew from the comm box as a conduct burst."
Did you mean "conduit"? Or "conductor"?
Shortly after that:
"Shields carried on by himself, his ragged breathes freezing into vapor clouds in front of him."
"breathes" should be "breaths".
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Post by MrNickUniverse on May 22, 2016 12:52:35 GMT -8
Other than the Maray Sprite not being found when talking to Ava in her office (Which I know you're already aware of)I have yet to experience any game breaking bugs. Although when kidnapping Chigara in Ava's route, she wakes up and is confused to see the captain "and Ava too" (or something to that effect) Which makes no sense because Ava isn't in the room.
One minor issue is during the battle with the Nightmare Ascendant, when Sola's "left" eye ignites when she awakens, her right eye is the one that does.
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Post by Nemjen on May 22, 2016 13:53:06 GMT -8
Here is where we discover that Sola gets his awakening ability from contact lenses and she put them in incorrectly for that battle. How is the further STory planned? I liked the LD2.0 ending after all; but with the DLC this one feels obsolates?! Which ending is canon? LD2.0 (Sunrider destroyed, intergalactic war, Sunrider crew scattered) or DLC (LD-Massacre did not take place; Chigara in Prison untill Alpha is hunted done; new crew Member; new adventures)? As I wrote, I like both endings, but my heart's ill if I don't know which one is canon :S You do not need to worry the DLC sits in its own timeline, it does not affect the main story. Saying that I doubt Samu could resist sneaking in a few bits of foreshadowing for example the fact there are multiple time travel devices of Claude's design and that she is able to make them. ... also you know like how Icari demonstrates implosions in such a detailed manner? That could also be foreshadowing. Saying that I hope Dr Shields and his Assistant gets its own series even if it was just a silly doodle comic.
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Post by sehanine on May 22, 2016 14:00:58 GMT -8
"Streams of foam shot from every direction, lathing the reactor in coolant. The flames around the reactor's hissed and eventually fizzled out."
Either a word is missing after "reactor's", the possessive is referring to the streams of foam or coolant ("the reactor's coolant" or "the reactor's streams of foam"), or (most likely) it should just be "reactor".
Also: "With Alice dead, and Chigara never having entered the mindstream, there no risk of Alice's ghost ever reasserting control over her again."
There should be a "was" before "no risk", so: "there was no risk".
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Post by SharrOfRyuvia on May 22, 2016 14:13:33 GMT -8
Here is where we discover that Sola gets his awakening ability from contact lenses and she put them in incorrectly for that battle. How is the further STory planned? I liked the LD2.0 ending after all; but with the DLC this one feels obsolates?! Which ending is canon? LD2.0 (Sunrider destroyed, intergalactic war, Sunrider crew scattered) or DLC (LD-Massacre did not take place; Chigara in Prison untill Alpha is hunted done; new crew Member; new adventures)? As I wrote, I like both endings, but my heart's ill if I don't know which one is canon :S You do not need to worry the DLC sits in its own timeline, it does not affect the main story. Saying that I doubt Samu could resist sneaking in a few bits of foreshadowing for example the fact there are multiple time travel devices of Claude's design and that she is able to make them. ... also you know like how Icari demonstrates implosions in such a detailed manner? That could also be foreshadowing. Saying that I hope Dr Shields and his Assistant gets its own series even if it was just a silly doodle comic. Um... that's actually going to be more worrying to some people - if they think it's that much better then LibDay's ending, they're probably going to feel gypped that it's all non-cannon (and before you start, no - if it's in it's own separate timeline, it's not cannon to the main series) and doesn't affect the story, or it might make the DLC feel a bit hollow in a way.
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Post by Samu-kun on May 22, 2016 14:29:47 GMT -8
Okay I think I fixed those typos. Edit: I also wonder, are we going to get a concept art for what the new pilot of the Liberty would have looked like if the current series was in the 'our greatest adventure' timeline? Hmmmm yeah, you'd really think that the new girl would be in the next game too honestly. We still *do* need a new chief and a white mage spell caster in both continuities...
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Post by Nemjen on May 22, 2016 14:56:48 GMT -8
Hmmmm yeah, you'd really think that the new girl would be in the next game too honestly. We still *do* need a new chief and a white mage spell caster in both continuities... Haha I concede, that was a bit of a silly statement on my behalf. However now that you describing the engineer as a white mage I expect a eighth grade syndrome magical girl.
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Post by vaendryl on May 22, 2016 15:02:50 GMT -8
Hey guys, how do I unlock the good ending for Icari and Asaga? I don't know how to stop Alice from taking over Chigaras body. I've tried every combination that I can think of, but I either get bad ending:7 or I get Claudes secret ending or Asaga's bad/normal ending. How in the sweet heavens do I stop Alice from taking over her body? choose Icari/Asaga save the crewman do not use body double take the holo
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Post by tanker4444 on May 22, 2016 16:28:00 GMT -8
Okay I think I fixed those typos. Edit: I also wonder, are we going to get a concept art for what the new pilot of the Liberty would have looked like if the current series was in the 'our greatest adventure' timeline? Hmmmm yeah, you'd really think that the new girl would be in the next game too honestly. We still *do* need a new chief and a white mage spell caster in both continuities... in my mind the new pilot would be a member of the Ceran Resistance. That was such a pleasant surprise by the way! In the main game, you kinda get a glimpse of it but its not really clear where the Ceran Gunboat "mercenaries" come from. I always thought of it as spending resources to covertly get surviving Ceran Spaceforce assets off Cera to help you out.
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Post by sehanine on May 22, 2016 21:11:37 GMT -8
I've updated to the latest version of [RE]turn via Steam. I'm not sure if it has to do with strangeness with my save files, but I played through LibDay without destroying Legion in MoA (so Ava didn't have the eyepatch) and, after choosing to save the crewman in [RE]turn, when I got to the scene in Kayto's office where Ava informs Kayto of his double, the graphic for her had the eyepatch. Prior to updating and on all other routes, Ava did not have the eyepatch. Also, same scene: Ava: "During the battle, we were indeed struck by an experimental PACT weapon which introduced a hunter drone within the ship. Security has examined the wreckage of the drone and have confirmed that it was PACT-made. I have surmised the incident in the latest report on your desk." "surmised" should probably be "summarized". I try to correct word choice in dialogue as little as possible since people do indeed use words incorrectly, but this is Ava we're talking about. Also, while distracting Claude in the sick bay so that Chigara can be kidnapped: "As he walked out, he confirmed that their operational was a success." "operational" should be "operation". Also: sol "I believe Claude was actually the one who has been relying our movements to the Prototypes." "relying" should be "relaying". Thanks for including the .rpy in the update. As a side note, I can't believe that I had to be hit over the head with an ending called "Time Lord" to realize that Claude is The Doctor. I'm not sure I can call myself a nerd anymore.
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Post by vaendryl on May 22, 2016 22:29:00 GMT -8
I've updated to the latest version of [RE]turn via Steam. I'm not sure if it has to do with strangeness with my save files, but I played through LibDay without destroying Legion in MoA (so Ava didn't have the eyepatch) and, after choosing to save the crewman in [RE]turn, when I got to the scene in Kayto's office where Ava informs Kayto of his double, the graphic for her had the eyepatch. Prior to updating and on all other routes, Ava did not have the eyepatch. If something bad happens to your save data from libday/moa it'll take something at random as to not crash your game. It's not ideal but at least you can keep playing.
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