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Post by magicdragon on Apr 12, 2018 8:44:01 GMT -8
That Kayto uses a PACT Elite (PACT being an antagonist force in the Sunrider series) on the arcade's ryder simulator, could this be a sign of things to come...? Maybe it is foreshadowing... “Why don’t you just tear off your shirts and run on sex appeal?” muttered Kayto, turning off the holo in disgust. (Sunrider Novelization Pg. 184) Looks like foreshadowing of Fontana's final move of the debates in SA.
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Post by magicdragon on Apr 10, 2018 13:10:47 GMT -8
I thought that when the Sharr'Loc exploded and almost destroyed the Sunrider, that that was the Final Tear activating.
My guess on how Sola survived assumes Claude grabbed Sola as she was about to activate the Final Tear and puts her in the stasis tube. Then with the help of Alpha and the prototypes (heh sounds like a geek band) bypasses the requirements that Sola's life is drained away or has to hold that DNA activated switch on till it explodes or however that mechanic works, so Claude can remote detonate it. So Asaga finds Sola and Claude remote activates the sequence to wake her from stasis. Sola attacks Asaga and escapes to her ryder, Asaga makes it out of there and back to her ryder as they battle some of the Ryuvian warships that have woken up. Once those ships are destroyed and Sola has surrendered Claude activates the Final Tear to get Sunrider to warp out of there to somewhere Pact can take the Crown Jewel of Ryuvia...and Asaga,
Multiple explosions broke out on the ancient Ryuvian super-dreadnought, setting its entire hull on fire before its primary reactor chained, breaking free of its controlled reaction and consuming all its remaining fuel in a single, brilliant nova. The entire ship was consumed as a massive blue ball of plasma blasted outwards, momentarily birthing a new star in the Abyss. Radiating outwards, the explosion slammed into the ancient shipwrecks, consuming them eagerly as it raged towards the Sunrider. With a hellish storm of searing plasma rushing at her, Sunrider’s warp drives teased apart space and time, pushing the ship to the safety of another dimension a millisecond before it was too late.
(Sunrider Novelization Page 137). “And what about that explosion? We’ve never seen anything of that magnitude.” “Such is the ultimate power of the Sharr’Lac,” answered Sola, apparently referring to the ancient superdreadnought. “The Final Tear… a weapon of unimaginable destructive potential. It was within the power of the Sharr’Lac to raze and burn everything within a half a light year radius, so long as one was willing to pay the Ultimate Sacrifice.”
(Sunrider Novelization Page 139).
With the destruction of the Sharr'Loc, whether it was the Final Tear or some other self-destructing malfunction, the ships in the Mnemosyne Abyss were destroyed. So how does Crow's officer know Sola is in this time too?
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Post by magicdragon on Apr 8, 2018 13:16:30 GMT -8
Hah an I, Robot reference I just noticed in MoA “I’m sorry, my responses are limited. You must ask the right questions.” Asaga’s face turned blank as she carefully enunciated her words.
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Post by magicdragon on Apr 8, 2018 8:20:26 GMT -8
Those are some big jumps in time. If Crow jumped 5000 years into the future he is either 3000 years after Sunrider or there are some big timeline holes.... From the Sunrider Novelization Chapter 12- The Abyss
“Hey, look at that!” Chigara’s voice quickened with excitement. “That ship’s almost perfectly preserved! Scanning now… Captain, judging from the radiation leak and decay from its reactor, I’m dating this ship to be almost… two thousand years old! And this ship still has intact lateral markings… it looks like it used to be part of the Ryuvian Princess’ Royal Guard! (Page 129).
Chapter 13 - Sola Chigara gasped, her ancient history lessons coming back to her. “B-but that’s impossible! The Sola vi Ryuvia? Of the Ancient Ryuvians? But you died over two thousand years ago!” (Page 138).
The page numbers may not match exactly as I've copied and saved it to a PDF file on my computer and have made some grammar changes.
Okay now I'm really confused, I'm thinking you must have a typo in your game cause I just loaded one of mine where I was almost to the end so I could zip past the credits and here is what mine says...
Deep withing the Mnemosyne Abyss... A mammoth super-dreadnought of unknown origins emerged from warp space. Officer: My liege... The time portal did not work as anticipated... Officer: Instead of being transported to before the battle, we were flung two thousand years into the future instead... Officer: Further, it appears the Farari b***h was also caught in the temporal blast and flung into this time line as well... Officer: Unknown interlopers have destroyed the time device, and thus we cannnot anticipate returning to our time line... Crow: Arggh... Crow: Fool! Officer: I-I beg your forgiveness, my lord Crow... Officer: T-the denizens of this universe appear to be nothing more than primitives... Officer: S-surely, my lord can expect to easily subjugate them for his ends... Crow: Grrgg... Crow: ...Very well... Crow: If I am to be robbed of my victory against the Farari lowbloods, then I shall rebuild our glorious empire here. Crow: Hah! Crow: To the denizens of this strange new land... Crow: Prepare! Crow: For the rebirth of the Holy Empire!
Which has now got me wondering when this is happening. Chigara was dating the ships to be 2k years old which they shouldn't be if they were brought through time. Sunrider battles Sola, who surrenders and is taken on board just before the Sharr'Loc explodes nearly vaporizing the Sunrider before it can warp away... If Crow's appearance is after the Liberation Day massacre (with nothing to say it is a flash back or flash forward it is just an assumption) then how would the officer know about Sola? The Sharr'Loc's Final Tear vaporized the ships, and if any of the ships were far enough away to escape the blast they would be 2k years old now.
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Post by magicdragon on Apr 7, 2018 14:12:24 GMT -8
I'm not sure if you mean moving the Sharr'Lac from one place in space to another place in space or moving it through time. As the Sharr'Lac was in the abyss I thought that's where Sola had lured Crow to set off the Final Tear as it is extremely remote so she wouldn't destroy any solar systems there, and so I don't think Claude would have had to move it in space as she was the one who told Kayto that was the place to look for the Royal Gem that could find the missing princess. As for moving it in time, well Crow managed to move an entire fleet, so it doesn't seem unreasonable to me that Claude's could move a 4 km ship. We arn't really given a scope for what the device is capable of doing.
Sunrider Academy I wasn't sure if Chigara actually did anything, if she really did destroy the time machine or if they just thanked her for helping not wanting her to feel she wasted her time since all Kayto and Sola had to do was convince Claude to cut the connection so the shadow of Sola could stay. If Chigara didn't actually do anything then that leaves me a couple guesses as to what happened to Crow's time device. One being Claude sabotaged it or two maybe moving the entire fleet overloaded it.
Heh just reread this and if I'm correct that Claude moved Sola through time then I'm more convinced that Chigara didn't actually do anything. If Claude moved Sola through time then it would have been Claude's device that would have created the shadow of Sola and would have needed to be destroyed. But as Claude used it to escape her ryder before it blew up and again to pop back to the group in the cargo hold it doesn't seem very broken. And as Sola is aware of Claude's involvement in the events of Sunrider Academy, which we find out at the end when Sola is telling Kayto that Claude is essentially a god, then that puts the events of Sunrider Academy before Liberation Day.
Okay another thought that just hit me is maybe Claude didn't move the Sharr'Lac at all not through space or through time, maybe she only moved Sola. The question that just hit me was, if Claude moved the entire Sharr'Lac through time, then why was Sola's Ryder so degraded my time?
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Post by magicdragon on Apr 7, 2018 12:15:28 GMT -8
That's a possibility, but the more I think about this the more I wonder if Sola was really caught in the time portal Crow opened. A couple questions that Sola being pulled into Crow's portal doesn't answer (assuming that if she was they would arrive at the same time):
1) How did Sola get moved from, about to activate the Final Tear of the Sharr'Lac to being asleep in the stasis chamber?
2) Claude's exam of Sola showed she hadn't been in stasis for over 1,000 years but only a few months, so if Crow and Sola arrived at the same time why didn't Crow destroy the Sharr'Loc and the rest of the Farari fleet while Sola was in stasis?
So my guess is that Claude or perhaps a different time traveler intervened and moved Sola through time where she would be found by Kayto. I am leaning toward Claude since knew were to lead Kayto to find Sola. This would imply Sola may be much more important to defeating Crow then we have thus far seen...hmmm kinda takes on a 'neither can live while the other survives' kinda vibe.
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Post by magicdragon on Apr 6, 2018 10:34:42 GMT -8
There might be more detail in some of the content that was given to people that donated to the kickstarter of FA/MoA and LD, unfortunately I didn't come across Sunrider until it was out on steam so I didn't get any of that material.
So going from what I remember of the material of the game, Diode was a research station created outside any government to avoid government oversight and control. The prototypes were created to be a biological supercomputer that would be able to help the scientists make major breakthroughs in their research. It was my understanding Claude had nothing to do with Diode or the creation of the prototypes, she only worked with them as she saw Crow was jumping forward in time and believed they could unite all of humanity against Crow.
As for Alice being able to awaken, it is my guess she found tech that allowed her to do this. Ava says the prototypes were obsessed with ancient Ryuvian tech and spent billions excavating Ryuvia'a artificial moon. As the prototypes found the Nightmare Ascendant I think its possible they could have found tech that allowed Alice to awaken. I don't think it was a genetics thing that allowed only Ryuvian princesses to awaken, I believe this was tech that the Ryuvian royalty kept to themselves. As Sola couldn't awaken until she was drafted as a princess since the acknowledged princess wouldn't use the Final Tear. After Sola agreed she was 'upgraded' to be able to awaken, which would suggest the ability isn't passed down from father to daughter but from mother to daughter (to explain how Asaga can now) or through technological enhancement.
I believe Maray is dead, as it seems to me if she managed to get out of Cera city before it was destroyed she would have found a way to contact Kayto and let him know she was alive.
As the end of LD suggests he just arrived in the current time line, it is my guess that he just traveled farther into the future then Sola did.
I've not seen anything to suggest Claude was part of that war or that Crow knows Claude. I suspect Claude stole the time device from Crow, it is also my guess Claude brought Sola to the future to help fight Crow, but those are just guesses. So I have just assumed the Farari b***h he refers to is Sola.
As Kayto was born on Cera, a Neutral Rim planet and (at least to the best of my knowledge) Arcadius was born on a New Empire planet, I have not seen anything that has made me think the two might have some connection.
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Post by magicdragon on Mar 24, 2018 18:16:09 GMT -8
Following the release of Liberation Day, LiS announced that Project Starnova was entering full production with what appears to be a tentative release date of 2017. As REturn was announced shortly after I feel as though it is safe to assume once this DLC releases this will be their main project moving forward, once this concludes I am sure we will see or hear about another Sunrider entry. Quoted from Patreon: Ben Jennings (Mags)Is it safe to assume Sunrider is getting shelved until the completion of Starnova? Love in SpaceI doubt it, there's a lot of planning work (market analysis, designing, hiring) to do for future games which generally gets done months in advance before a game's announced. (eg. Academy was in planning stages during the development of MoA months before it was publically announced.) Sometimes it's convenient to do things simultaneously, like we could get agreements made in regards to the cast for Starnova while we were also recording voices for LD. Most of it remains secret though so people will never know. :x *** Mag's narration: From the sound of it while Starnova will be the focus, this will not deter them from collecting assets for the next Sunrider game if the opportunity arises.
***To the best of my knowledge we have not yet received a more definitive answer then this. While this is not a solid 'Yes' it is also not a 'No we are done with Sunrider'. I doubt we will get a better answer then this until Starnova has been released, which seems to be taking longer then originally planned.
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Post by magicdragon on Feb 15, 2018 5:28:57 GMT -8
I had to vote Icari also. I'm sure Kryska learned to drink in the Navy, but I think Icari started building her tolerance at a younger age. I've gotta agree with Chapterserf about Sola. When the crew was taking shore leave after the big battle at Far Port, while the other girls were playing games and drinking (okay mostly getting Ava too drunk to interfere) Sola was alone on the roof staring at the stars.
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Post by magicdragon on Feb 9, 2018 11:21:58 GMT -8
A possibility I hadn't thought of was that Claude could have recovered the Bianca when everyone else was focused on the Nightmare Ascendant. Claude recovering it herself would also keep anyone from noticing her body wasn't in it.
I was looking at the character pictures in Sunrider, Kryska's and Ava's look the same to me and that was why I was thinking they may be the same rank. But you're right Kryska is only a lieutenant, so I guess the only reason their uniforms look alike is that they are the only two girls who have actually joined the military and are not civilians recruited for their skills.
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Post by magicdragon on Feb 8, 2018 17:17:46 GMT -8
I'd forgotten about the Bianca being destroyed...But the ryders get destroyed a lot so it could be the Bianca was towed back, thus is could also be in the Sunrider waiting to be salvaged. Sadly that thought raises the plot hole question of why didn't anyone notice there was no corpse in the ryder if it's remains were recovered after the battle?
It does seem unlikely a ryder sim was packed for their stay on Tydaria, I was just grasping for a way Kayto could have gotten some skills as a pilot for a mission.
My first thought was Icari, as Chief of Security would be the next highest ranking after Ava, but Kryska and Ava do wear the same uniform which could indicate they are the same rank. Not that it would make any difference as Icari would also be in a ryder. Kayto and Ava are the only two that we really get to know that are not ryder pilots, so anyway we look at this either a new member of the bridge crew would need to be introduced or command would fall to that yet unknown crewman.
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Post by magicdragon on Feb 4, 2018 16:20:16 GMT -8
Yes that would explain why he doesn't have much to say about the loss of his parents, but is so very distraught over the loss of his sister.
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Post by magicdragon on Feb 1, 2018 14:20:16 GMT -8
My best guess Kayto Samu-kun Shields... Some can be very subtle with their self-references.
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Post by magicdragon on Jan 27, 2018 18:44:45 GMT -8
I... don't think it would work so easily unless Kayto magically learns how to pilot a ryder while he is on that planet with Sola... not to mention getting access to a ryder... Kayto could have access to a ryder if a pilot is out of action for some reason but I agree, Kayto is an officer and I doubt officer training involves learning how to pilot a ryder. Maybe in a cut-scene, for whatever reason, Kayto has a little knowledge of how ryders work and launches a missile barrage through the ships hanger door or something. I assume this would be a last resort though. In terms of gameplay this might create some issues. The player controls Kayto while in command anyway so it might be a bit weird to control kayto as a unit during these sections. I guess you would be playing as Ava or a random lieutenant or ensign. Hmmm Kayto could learn some ryder skills if Sola brought what she needed to set up a sim, as a Sharr she can't let her skills get rusty. Though Kayto was specifically selected to be captain of the Sunrider because of his skill in the sims as a ship's captain, not a ryder pilot, so it doesn't entirely make sense for him to be out in a ryder while Ava (who was passed over for that promotion) is left in command of the ship. (Yes Ava is second in command and so command would only fall to another officer if Ava were injured and forced to sickbay while Kayto was out flying around.) Although while the Sunrider was pretty thoroughly smashed it could be possible that Chigara's ryder wasn't destroyed so could maybe have been salvaged some time later. So if Kayto were to become a decent pilot he might find himself flying Liberty on the first mission of the game to steal a ship such as one of the new pact carriers as their design was (if I recall correctly) based on the Sunrider, but without the Vanguard cannon. It could be an interesting way to open the next game. I also believe that most if not all Ryder pilots in the universe are canonically female for some reason. Can't remember why, but it seemed important. Perhaps there is something floating around about ancient Ryuvian culture but my understanding is that modern constructed Ryders can be piloted by anyone regardless of gender (assuming they've been trained to pilot of course). As I recall Kryska said that alliance ships were not co-ed, so unless all the Alliance carriers are all crewed by female soldiers, there would be carriers crewed by men and thus have male ryder pilots. I also think part of the reason Kryska was chosen to join Sunrider was because all the other pilots were female so she would adjust to being one of their pilots more easily then a male pilot. Well that could make sense, the entire of mankind was united under the holy ryuvian empire so its culture could still be prevalent in the events of sunrider. But then ryder technology was lost for around 400 years so I doubt that this is the case during a time period with tensions between the new empire and the solar alliance so high. When I read Rellek's Post, I thought it could be something of a cultural stigma since the Sharr of Ryuvia was the most elite and all girls looked up to her and wanted to be her. Though 400 years with no ryders and thus no ryder pilots is a long time for the sentiment of 'being a ryder pilot is women's work' to still be a part of the various cultures that have risen since the fall of the Ryuvian Empire. So maybe its just that in the Sunrider universe women are the bigger thrill seekers and are drawn to the adrenaline rush of being a ryder pilot more then men.
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Post by magicdragon on Jan 27, 2018 17:27:12 GMT -8
Drier
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Post by magicdragon on Dec 23, 2017 12:49:01 GMT -8
Dryders
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Post by magicdragon on Dec 21, 2017 4:39:17 GMT -8
Citer
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Post by magicdragon on Dec 19, 2017 17:45:29 GMT -8
A few suggestions for any who think we are stuck: Kiters > Miters or Kites or Kiers
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Post by magicdragon on Dec 15, 2017 13:59:01 GMT -8
Kiters
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Post by magicdragon on Dec 14, 2017 17:25:32 GMT -8
Live (Who knows what will happen next)
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Post by magicdragon on Dec 12, 2017 17:35:42 GMT -8
For me to better be able to suspend disbelief and see a choice where it looks like I (as Kayto) must make a life or death decision and for me to feel there is meaning to that decision, the author would need to take a page from George R R Martin introducing some characters that look like characters that will be with you through the story but then kill them off. Or perhaps better would be having you make choices that spare them or get them killed. This way you never know, am I really ordering this person to their death or will they survive.
So if an extra had been introduced with Asaga and Chigara, but given enough background and such that the character doesn't feel like one of those nameless expendable marines, then throw in a situation like when you pick up Claude. Just before that battle you are asked if you want to send the ryders forward to protect the transport, this creates an opportunity to kill the extra. If you say yes and the extra's ryder is destroyed then after the battle is over you get the news that her suit was damaged by shrapnel and ordering the ryders forward left her too far from the Sunrider to get back before she ran out of oxygen.
If there were a few situations like this to loose some extras and assuming I had one or more extras killed by choices I made, then I would be me wondering if Ava was a character that would really survive no matter the choice I make.
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Post by magicdragon on Dec 12, 2017 13:39:44 GMT -8
Mice (three of them...and they're all blind)
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Post by magicdragon on Dec 12, 2017 13:36:48 GMT -8
Do you think that the choice would have been more effective and meaningful if you believed that Ava would have died? I'm not trying to attack you for thinking logically and seeing that Ava had a high chance of survival at that point but I still think that metagaming out of major choices is a bit if-y to me. I'm not trying to claim that this choice was bad either, I've seen countless games contain many choices that eventually turn out to have no effect on the story. Compared to many larger games, I think that sunrider has done well in this area. Its also interesting to think about how choices in video games could have more meaningful effects overall. I don't know that I would have seen it as more meaningful, because its a game, not a real life situation, I can always load a saved game and make a different choice. As I try not to do a lot of save and see if I like the other choice better for a first run, had I believed Ava would have died it would have been a more difficult choice. Ava is (usually) my favorite character and since I wouldn't want her story to end there, I don't think I would have ordered her to go. Of course that would mean I failed Star Fleet's Command Officer training.
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Post by magicdragon on Dec 11, 2017 18:23:55 GMT -8
Looks like I'm late to the topic. Aesthetically Eye-patch and glove Ava is way cooler looking, but I couldn't bring myself to risk the love of my life over petty revenge. Revenge is not the jedi way. In the end the sexual harassment forms seem to suggest that Ava does not share my sentiment on the matter. I was seduced by the dark side and only now realize it. In truth when I made the choice I didn't believe Ava would really be killed, but I did want revenge. I don't care for the eye patch though, but then I don't care for body piercings or tattoos either. Don't read to much into the sexual harassment forms, once Kayto points out there is no Cera Command to send the forms to, she admits she was just venting.
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Post by magicdragon on Dec 11, 2017 18:02:26 GMT -8
Pack
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Post by magicdragon on Dec 9, 2017 14:08:28 GMT -8
Sack
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Post by magicdragon on Dec 7, 2017 19:19:17 GMT -8
Price
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Post by magicdragon on Dec 5, 2017 20:20:43 GMT -8
Cars
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Post by magicdragon on Dec 5, 2017 19:59:07 GMT -8
didnt kayto call it a bionic eye I'd have to reread it, but I'm thinking Kayto said the Alliance was going to make her a synthetic eye. So I was thinking the eye patch was temporary, but the way things are now maybe not so temporary.
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Post by magicdragon on Dec 1, 2017 12:48:44 GMT -8
Freed
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