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Post by Somasam on Apr 21, 2017 22:06:00 GMT -8
Well crumbs, it appears I forgot about this for a few days. And right at 12:05, so I can't do two in a row. A shame.
Ava: 1014 Asaga: 1075 Chigara: 803 (-5) Cosette: 791 Icari: 1411 Claude: 76 Kryska: 961 (+3) Sola: 1038
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Post by Somasam on Apr 17, 2017 20:51:38 GMT -8
Ava: 1014 Asaga: 1060 Chigara: 808 (-5) Cosette: 811 Icari: 1409 Claude: 109 Kryska: 958 (+3) Sola: 1038
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Post by Somasam on Apr 16, 2017 20:37:34 GMT -8
Ava: 1014 Asaga: 1060 Chigara: 813 (-5) Cosette: 811 Icari: 1405 Claude: 121 Blue-Haired-One: 955 (+3) Sola: 1038
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Post by Somasam on Apr 15, 2017 15:44:56 GMT -8
Ava: 1013 Asaga: 1058 Chigara: 818 (-5) Cosette: 816 Icari: 1398 Claude: 138 Blue-Haired-One: 952 (+3) Sola: 1038
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Post by Somasam on Apr 13, 2017 14:30:34 GMT -8
Ava: 1013 Asaga: 1052 Chigara: 823 (-5) Cosette: 826 Icari: 1393 Claude: 157 Blue-Haired-One: 949 (+3) Sola: 1038
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Post by Somasam on Apr 12, 2017 18:58:47 GMT -8
Ava: 1013 Asaga: 1049 Chigara: 828 (-5) Cosette: 831 Icari: 1389 Claude: 169 Blue-Haired-One: 946 (+3) Sola: 1038
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Post by Somasam on Apr 11, 2017 12:28:03 GMT -8
Ava: 1013 Asaga: 1046 Chigara: 833 Cosette: 836 (-5) Icari: 1385 Claude: 181 Blue-Haired-One: 943 (+3) Sola: 1038
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Post by Somasam on Apr 9, 2017 16:48:41 GMT -8
Ava: 1013 Asaga: 1044 Chigara: 833 Cosette: 846 (-5) Icari: 1378 Claude: 198 Kryska: 939 (+3) Sola: 1038
Funny how those who still want to support their waifu must pick at the scraps of less loved ones, lest they draw the attention of the Icarian Army. Curious to see where people's loyalties lie once only 2 or 3 are left.
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Post by Somasam on Apr 6, 2017 18:54:17 GMT -8
Ava: 1013 Asaga: 1035 Chigara: 833 Cosette: 866 (-5) Icari: 1374 Claude: 224 Blue-Haired-One: 936 (+3) Sola: 1040
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Post by Somasam on Apr 5, 2017 20:51:20 GMT -8
I always imagined it as a modern/scifi setting, but using WW1 military tactics. Waifu wars apparently transcend time and space. They are also brutal as hell.
Ava: 1013 Asaga: 1032 Chigara: 833 Cosette: 876 (-5) Icari: 1376 Claude: 226 Blue-Haired-One: 933 (+3) Sola: 1040
Amos was on guard duty with the grunts, again. He'd long ago realized that the other officers were rigging the drawing of straws so he'd always get picked for dealing with the enlisted. He didn't mind too much. Looking out across the No-Man's-Land and dealing with rash privates was preferable to the bureaucratic mess and mountains of paperwork his fellow officers had to deal with.
The front line was surprisingly tranquil on their edge of the world. Amos had figured that the more powerful nations would have quickly leveled their humble republic before engaging in any full on wars. As strong as their armor columns were, the Kryskards had only a fraction of the manpower the more prominent nations had. He just hadn't expected the apathy towards the Kryskard Confederacy to be so pronounced. That or the burning hatred for the Claudese Theocracy was holding the attention of the major parties in the war at this juncture.
Not all the attention, though. Sirens rang out as a flight of Icarian Bombers soared towards the nearby fields. Most of them were sleek and black, but the lead was adorned in a garnish yellow. The tail-tell sign that their ace, Vladek, was out to pick at their defenses again. Whatever they had done to occur the wrath of someone like him, Amos hadn't the faintest idea. All he could do was update command and get his men to the safety of their bunkers.
"This is bullshit!" A private bellowed. His obnoxious cries stood in contrast to the deep, muted thumping from above. "Why aren't we even firing back? At least give those fanatics a token resistance!"
"Listen, kid," Amos said as he leaned back in his chair and fiddled with the radio equipment, "Have you even seen the artificial sunrises coming up from the Claudese? Orders from the higher ups say no fighting back against the Icarians. The longer we can stay under the radar, the longer we can keep our fairly peaceful lives."
"Is that all we are going to do now? Roll over and wait to get pounded into the ground? They've been slowly chipping away at us, and the others! The least we can do is give them a proper fight!"
"Heh, it wouldn't be a fight, kid. It'd be a massacre. We hold the line here. We poke and prod the less defended supply lines while the bigger forces occupy themselves in their battles. We pray that the Icarians still honor the bonds our namesakes held so long ago. Its really all we can do at this point."
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Post by Somasam on Apr 4, 2017 21:36:22 GMT -8
Better make a post before today ends. Will try to put my creative writing class to use tomorrow and write something interesting.
Ava: 1013 Asaga: 1029 Chigara: 833 (-5) Cosette: 886 Icari: 1366 Claude: 242 Blue-Haired-One: 936 (+3) Sola: 1040
Afraid to attack the Icarians. Fricken fanatics is what they are. I'm just shocked and amazed that the blue-haired-one didn't instantly get nuked into low points. She's been just kinda chilling there, not doing too bad nor too good.
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Post by Somasam on Sept 4, 2016 14:38:50 GMT -8
I saw that too. Is there some sort of trend with the white haired, emotionally detached girls being the sniper of the team?
Otherwise, I'd like to hear if its worth picking up. The enemies seemed kind of... basic, but the girl's designs seemed to be pretty good over all.
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Post by Somasam on Sept 4, 2016 14:35:57 GMT -8
Hell, by all means put it up on here. Even in lame man's terms could be an interesting thing to read.
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Post by Somasam on Aug 8, 2016 22:56:26 GMT -8
Julie Watanabe and Mariya Yamamoto are my favorite idols right now. Hard time choosing either one, but considering Mariya has a significant lead, I'll go with Julie for now. Mika Hashimoto also has a shot too.
Like some have said above me, I like the more mature and older appearances they give off. Though to be fair, the smoking and drinking do turn me off a good deal from Mariya, hopefully that is something that can be addressed in her route.
As clove has said, I am also noticing a distinct lack of green in the waifus for not just Starnova, but the flagship series Sunrider as well. Closest we got is Asaga's eyes and the paladin. (Salute to the blue-haired-one!)
Over all, due to this being a new IP, I have not really made any significant attachment to any one girl yet. Only time will tell.
(And now I can't tell if I'd rather see Cullen be a bumbling rival producer/CEO of the company. Or as a bumbling janitor.)
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Post by Somasam on Aug 8, 2016 22:40:10 GMT -8
I am just glad I called it being an Idol game from the second screen shot on Samu's twitter.
Idk, I feel Cullen could pull an unexpected 180 on us. At first appear as a fat, slobish, heartless director; but in the end turn out to be a fat, somewhat decent guy who was also abused by the entertainment industry.
I just want more scenes with Cullen honestly. Even overly melodramatic blubbering scenes.
Also, if there is going to be any scenes with the Space Whale plushy, its going to probably be in the H scenes. Just like academy.
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Post by Somasam on Aug 8, 2016 19:04:51 GMT -8
Huh. I am glad to hear that the majority of performance issues are all just self imposed from inexperience.
I can imagine that in Starnova, there will not be nearly as many coding hurdles for you to go through compared to a more game-play heavy experience such as Sunrider. Does this mean that perhaps in slower points in Starnova's development, where Samu will be doing more work on non-coding parts, you would be able to go back and work on Sunrider's combat coding?
And if you do, would you rather simply clean up the current code you have in place, or try to rewrite large portions of it from scratch? From the way you've described it, it seems like much of it is rubbish, and based on the new things you might want to implement; it would be easier to rewrite the code to accommodate what you want rather than forcing the older code to do such.
Commanding while other units are simultaneously following orders sounds like a really awesome idea, definitely keep the battle flowing.
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Post by Somasam on May 25, 2016 11:16:21 GMT -8
I approve of making a new poll for [RE]turn. I too am curious to see how thoughts change with new expansion.
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Post by Somasam on May 15, 2016 15:41:44 GMT -8
There are many bad ends in the DLC, some of them pretty graphic. There's also some endings some people might consider "bad" depending on your opinion. Eh I think there's 11 endings and about 10 more bad ends if I recall correctly, but I probably forgot. The style's quite unlike any game we've made before but I'm pretty happy with how the script turned out. Granted I haven't played the DLC yet either! So far vaendryl is the only person who knows what it's really like. (yeah I needed a guide to get a specific one hahaha) It would be fun to see the community come together after REturn is released in order to make a comprehensive guide for all major choices and how it branches the story. Then put it into flowchart format cause those are always fun. Interesting that the amount of 'bad ends' are about on par with the amount of normal ends. I wasn't sure if it would be like Katawa Shoujo where each route had one bad end, or like those old space janitor simulator games where you die every other screen to something stupid you did. Like let yourself out the airlock. Also brings the question of where those other around 6 routes come from, if we only account for one route per waifu, that is 5 (poor Kryska, Cosette,... and Chigara); then I assume we have about 2 different ways each girl's path can go; and a final route that is either we didn't hook up with anyone, or a 'golden ending' style with everyone.
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Post by Somasam on May 15, 2016 15:31:17 GMT -8
Glad to hear that. I was also confused when they said 6 Ryders was pushing capacity. The explanation makes sense though. And thanks Vaendryl, your work is appreciated.
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Post by Somasam on May 7, 2016 19:41:30 GMT -8
Huh, that is going to be a major decision in the DLC? Interesting.
I was wondering if we'd actually have any baring on the ship and battles at hand. I figured we'd be a separate Kayto flung into the past and have to make sure to stay clear of the 'original' Kayto and operate things behind the scenes using our chosen waifu as a proxy.
Interested to see if you will put in any other choices in the game that would effect how the story would've progressed.
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Post by Somasam on May 4, 2016 13:44:01 GMT -8
Yeah, I am not quite sure what is going to be done with Claude herself though.
The only people who know anything of her true nature are both stuck planetside and in hiding. While the only person who has any suspensions about her, Ava, is currently busy trying to bring us back from the brink. We still don't even know what was on her Holo-pad in the med bay that Ava found.
I wonder if we will get the ability to imprison her again like we did when we first met her. I was actually kind of disappointed that when Claude talked with Alpha about how she met Kayto, she didn't mention him throwing her right in the brig for impersonating a medical professional. I sure as hell ain't letting her back into the med bay again, check ups be damned. I still have the silly little impulse that she will be an XO, completely at odds with Ava, yet still there and somewhat competent in her own right. Or at least bumble around and do the right thing through shear luck.
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Post by Somasam on May 1, 2016 9:26:47 GMT -8
Yeah, was getting a little off topic there. Either way, I might as well go along with the question about liberty's Ryder. It made me think about the condition of what Ryders are still left from the original wing. - Black Jack and Seraphim - Left before the Ceran massacre and came back in 2.0 to save the day. Both still fully operational.
- Phoenix and Paladin - Stayed behind and survived Ceran Massacre and destruction of Sunrider. Both still fully operational.
- Bianca - Destroyed in the final missions before liberation of Cera. What I am curious about is if Claude is going to just 'happen' upon another fully operational Ryder from another pre-space-travel-world like she did with the Bianca, or if she will just wait around before we can get her another one.
- Liberty - We are all in agreement that it has almost certainly been destroyed in the hanger of the Sunrider when it went down. The only possibilities of its survival are if Cosette did steal it to flee if we scraped her Ryder, or the prototypes had the capacity to sneak onto the Sunrider and take the Liberty out of it before the massacre went down. Both seem unlikely however.
- Havoc - Three different continuities for it, either: 1. destroyed in battle for Helios, 2. scrapped after recovery - possibly just missing its legs if Cosette fled using it, or 3. Fully repaired thanks to the engineer crew, and survived Sunrider's destruction. So still fully operational and at large. Possibly even improved from its original form.
One thing to note is that now that we have neither our tech genius nor our military backing, our Engineering crew is probably going to be barely managing to just keep the Ryders operational. While they might have survived the destruction of the sunrider, they have the very real potential to start degrading due to lack of proper maintenance.
What I am curious about is what is Bianca going to do in tactical combat without a Ryder. Possibly another XO like Ava, probably not though. The other major concern I have is what are we going to do without any support Ryders in our wing. I wouldn't mind if the gameplay turned more stealth oriented with hit-and-run tactics, but we are certainly in no position to fight extended skirmishes with just a few slowly deteriorating Ryders and just a cargo carrier as the main ship.
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Post by Somasam on Apr 25, 2016 20:29:08 GMT -8
A wonderful idea. Thank you for doing this. Its a shame that the updated sprites can't be brought in for the FA/MoA parts, but even still this is very impressive and I am sure not an easy feat. I second blackhead and hope that you will continue to stay with us far into the future.
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Post by Somasam on Apr 25, 2016 20:07:52 GMT -8
I will have to agree with some of the older posts made about two pages back. Icari was a pretty good character I thought back in FA and MoA, but she definitely suffered in her appearance in LibDay.
Kryska and Asaga seemed to get the best parts of the writing and character development for the 1.0 portion of the game. While Claude, Chigara, Lynn, and Sola got some really good lines and development in the 2.0 expansion. Ava has already been well developed by this point, and the med-bay scene with her if you destroyed the legion was particularly well done.
However, Icari seems to have severely lapsed into a cut-and-past Tsundere. At the very least it wasn't the 'super-bitchy' form of a tsundere who also has a tendency to physically harm Kayto at any provocation. Even still I felt that she was much less interesting and had become woefully predictable with many interactions ending in her getting overly flustered for silly reasons. Before I felt that she was one of the most levelheaded members of the cast, was able to hold her own and keep her cool in many situations, and was able to be very sociable with the other characters and was able to read them all fairly well. Her backstory is also pretty interesting and still hasn't been fully tied up yet, as her parents' killer has still not yet made an appearance. Not to mention there are still probably plenty of interesting stories from her mercenary days and plenty of colorful characters that she has had to deal with in her past, like her possible black market contacts.
And while I do enjoy her friendship with Kryska, and I do enjoy the dynamic between the two in many of their conversations, I still feel that they could each be fleshed out a bit more as their own separate characters. Throughout most of Libday, it almost felt like they were Siamese twins, with many of their scenes ending in Icari getting flustered over her friendship with Kryska.
Either way, I hope it didn't sound like I was unjustifiably bashing Icari, I was just trying to voice my reasons as to why she felt sub-par in this edition of Sunrider; as well as provide some constructive criticism so that she may become even better than she already is.
PS: To those of you posting fan art of your favorite waifus in this thread, why don't you guys make new threads in the Fan Art section and fill it up with many glorious pictures. The art section is still pitifully small and any and all additions would be greatly appreciated by all!
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Post by Somasam on Apr 25, 2016 19:38:44 GMT -8
Thank you for your contribution to science! With your help our collective knowledge has increased and made us that much more powerful. Just a bit more and we might just be able to take over the world.
It would make sense that trapping Cosette and then leaving her Ryder to rust in the hanger bay would piss her off. Still, it is kinda weird that it didn't get tossed or completely scrapped for parts when the decision was made. I guess that is what Kayto gets for being lax on his Ryder Disposal paperwork forms.
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Post by Somasam on Apr 16, 2016 9:06:41 GMT -8
1. Would also like to request this knowledge as well.
3. I think we could assume three things happened to the Sharr. Either Asaga just ended up getting full control over her awakened state over the course of Libday and is no longer influenced by it; She isn't directly controlled by it anymore, but it still has lingering psychological effects that influence her indirectly; or it is just bidding its time and will come up again the next time the battle is looking dire or Asaga once again lets jealousy and doubts control her mind.
4. It would be nice to have actually gotten some more stuff between when Claude showed up and Kayto went planetside. Though I did like the scene ending on Ava's line like it did. We only see her reappear and then hear Sola's and Katyo's thoughts on here after the fact. Perhaps she went back to that one planet she was originally visiting? Or perhaps she is just hanging around with the rest of the crew, ditzing around like she usually is.
5. It is definitely Sola. The main man is Harbor Crow, the 'usurper' prince that Sola talked about in conversations in FA and MoA. They were probably in the same battle as Sola and the Sharr Loc(or whatever the Ryuvian super weapon was called) and when they time traveled, Sola and the rest of the two ryuvian fleets got transported and dumped in the current time line, with only Sola left alive. Farari is probably the name of Sola's Faction during that war.
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Post by Somasam on Apr 16, 2016 8:55:33 GMT -8
Noooooooo, not the dreaded hard drive failure! That really sucks though man, hopefully you can get a new one soon, and didn't lose anything too important.
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Post by Somasam on Apr 7, 2016 16:40:46 GMT -8
I've always had the random idea of Vandread-esque mecha; Mostly in the case if Kayto ever got his own Ryder, it'd be a special one that is pitiful on its own, but able to merge with other Ryders like Vanguards and Dreads to form a 'super' Ryder, which is the feel I am getting from this thread.
To be honest, it would be kind of hard to have pre-existing ryders doing this without extensive redesigning. I mean the entire frame and all the subsystems would have to be remade from the ground up with the intent of allowing them to merge together seamlessly. This would also be hard due to us just losing all our financial backing from any substantial military force, along with us losing our main technological genius.
It would be interesting to be able to pair up two units a-la fire emblem, but have them merge into a new more powerful unit instead of just fighting together. Perhaps instead of giving each Ryder it's own name when combined, make the secondary Ryder give a suffix or prefix to the name of the primary Ryder.
Black Jack provides- Heroic/Awoken/Assault, Liberty provides - Techno/Diode/Support, Phoenix - Nitro/Swordsmaster/Interceptor, Bianca - Cyclops/Medic/Manipulator, Seraphim - Angel/Guardian/Sharpshooter, Paladin - Cavalier/Alliance(patriotic)/Armored, Havoc - Grenadier/Chaotic/Destructor
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Post by Somasam on Apr 7, 2016 14:49:12 GMT -8
Could always create something, if you have a lot of free time on your hands. Give back to the game like it has done for you. That and the fan art section is pitifully small at the moment.
You're such a fan of Icari, make some fan art of her. Or make an MMD model for her like that one guy's daughter is doing for Asaga. It doesn't matter if its shit, just keep at it and get better and better! Make the greatest pictures of Icari, not that she would want it or anything, though.
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Post by Somasam on Mar 31, 2016 11:31:02 GMT -8
Honestly, I am still partial to the idea that the final romantic choice should be done at the end of the main story. The other installations are all technically a 'common route' while you build up your relationships and learn more about all the characters as the story progresses. That way you can learn more about everyone and see how they all change rather than lime-lighting one person and leave the rest completely out of the image. We all saw how that turned out when Kayto focused only on Chigara and hardly talked to Asaga, causes major tensions.
Not to mention, there are a lot more than 3 girls in sunrider. Even if we only look at the main team and none of the other factions' ladies we have: Ava, Asaga, Chigara, Icari, Claude, Sola, and Kryska. That would be 7 routes already. The amount of work for Samu to have to write and code 7 times the normal amount of work just so each girl gets her own part of the story. That's why I think it'd be best to not break the main story up into routes until the very end, where it could be more of an epilogue: "what happened to Kayto and his chosen girl after Cera is finally saved?"
For a spin-off game, like Sunrider Academy, that is completely fair game. And if Love in Space want to make more spin off games that focus a lot more on specific characters, that'd be totally fine. But as long as we are talking about the Main flag ship series, I feel it'd be best to not implement routes quite yet.
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