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Post by Sorzo on Aug 10, 2017 11:30:23 GMT -8
Look she'll share all of this phenomenal cosmic power with you if you will only kneel. The eternal bakery will be the most powerful confectionery chain in galactic history... Sounds like poor Kayto's going to be frozen for five years and separated from his beloved Sola, after which he'll have to put up with Chigara being stuck in his head as he gathers allies from both PACT and the Alliance in order to combat the Eternal Bakery, which is now run by a half-mask-wearing Lynn. That WAS a SWTOR reference, right? >.>
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Post by admiralcheese on Aug 11, 2017 8:49:10 GMT -8
Look she'll share all of this phenomenal cosmic power with you if you will only kneel. The eternal bakery will be the most powerful confectionery chain in galactic history... Sounds like poor Kayto's going to be frozen for five years and separated from his beloved Sola, after which he'll have to put up with Chigara being stuck in his head as he gathers allies from both PACT and the Alliance in order to combat the Eternal Bakery, which is now run by a half-mask-wearing Lynn. That WAS a SWTOR reference, right? >.> Yes. But don't worry. We're not bringing Drew back to write so Yandere brain Chigara is actually an interesting character who gets BAMF lines left and right.
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Post by Sorzo on Aug 11, 2017 9:37:25 GMT -8
Just so long as Sunrider doesn't get an update that keeps Kayto from earning command points unless he's currently a paid subscriber to LiS' patreon. Seriously, I hate 5.0 from a gameplay standpoint.
Out of curiosity, what server are you on? I'm an Ebon Hawk guy myself, with a LS Immortal Juggernaut main.
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Post by ChapterSerf on Aug 11, 2017 13:56:53 GMT -8
I can already see the opening of the next Sunrider:
It starts with a battle, (to serve as maybe a tutorial and serve as a painful reminder that the Liberty and all of its healing goodness is gone).
Upon winning the battle: Fade to Black: Sola: No captain! Stop! Captain, no! That doesn't fit there! No captain! It's too big! Captain, wait! Stop! Fade from black: Shields is standing on a ladder, absentmindedly trying to fit a too large piece of their Greenhouse into too small a fixture.
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Post by admiralcheese on Aug 11, 2017 21:39:53 GMT -8
Just so long as Sunrider doesn't get an update that keeps Kayto from earning command points unless he's currently a paid subscriber to LiS' patreon. Seriously, I hate 5.0 from a gameplay standpoint.
Out of curiosity, what server are you on? I'm an Ebon Hawk guy myself, with a LS Immortal Juggernaut main. Jedi Covenant.
Though I was originally on Sedyn Kyne before the server amalgamations. And my "Main" ended up being a Marauder almost by accident. This character was the first one I ever got invited into an operation for. Eventually I just ran with it. Sto'ey is the only character I still have that existed before the servers were combined.
But nah Kayto will be fine. He can use the powers Chigara offers to fire the new and improved Vanguard Cannon without using command points. But that will have a cost later on because we're not bringing Drew in.
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Post by clove on Aug 14, 2017 7:38:11 GMT -8
That being said, points down for making an idol game... I have literally no idea why those are getting so popular lately, I may give it a try just because it is from you, but its really not my style I am sure it cant beat Sunrider's epicness, and oh god, that fantastic music! We recently released a public demo for Starnova (idol game), give it a try if you get the chance. All Ages: sekaiproject.com/starnova/18+: denpasoft.com/products/shining-song-starnova-demoThat website wants my credit card information for a $0.00 purchase... right...
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Post by ChapterSerf on Aug 14, 2017 8:48:08 GMT -8
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Post by jack on Aug 14, 2017 20:46:39 GMT -8
Only thing I can say, is that if Cossete doesn't get a chance for some kind of a happiesh ending where she isn't dead and is no longer consumed by a quest for revenge to the point that she is willing to destroy herself, there is going to be rioting.
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Post by ChapterSerf on Aug 14, 2017 22:35:52 GMT -8
I always found it peculiar that Cossete has English lines from MoA. If you do the route in LD that allows you to use her in the last LD mission, and you have your combat voice lines set to English, she's fully voiced.
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Post by Prince995 on Aug 15, 2017 6:16:03 GMT -8
I always found it peculiar that Cossete has English lines from MoA. If you do the route in LD that allows you to use her in the last LD mission, and you have your combat voice lines set to English, she's fully voiced. Well i have the theory she originally was going to be joining the sunrider crew, i always thought it was strange she had a similar jumpsuit like the other girls and even the number 7 on her chest
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Post by jack on Aug 15, 2017 7:08:25 GMT -8
I always found it peculiar that Cossete has English lines from MoA. If you do the route in LD that allows you to use her in the last LD mission, and you have your combat voice lines set to English, she's fully voiced. Well i have the theory she originally was going to be joining the sunrider crew, i always thought it was strange she had a similar jumpsuit like the other girls and even the number 7 on her chest Yeah, definitely a possibilty. Though the plugsuit itself is a suit designed to help counteract the g-forces that the pilots are subjected to during combat, the number 7, which coincided directly with the number of one of the bays in the Sunrider, does make it possible. That does bring up another question though. According to Ava, the Sunrider was built to house a total of 12 Ryders. So far, we've only seen a total of 7 possible applicants, maybe 8 if you were to count L7NN. Even with the Sunrider itself destroyed, it begs the question, who exactly were the other pilots supposed to be? Seeing as in the next installment, we've got Thrawn, Crow, the remmanants of the Alliance, as well as the Pirates, led by Cossete, to face, it wouldn't really surprise me if there were a few surprise guests who show up.
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Post by MrNickUniverse on Aug 15, 2017 16:01:24 GMT -8
I always found it peculiar that Cossete has English lines from MoA. If you do the route in LD that allows you to use her in the last LD mission, and you have your combat voice lines set to English, she's fully voiced. Well i have the theory she originally was going to be joining the sunrider crew, i always thought it was strange she had a similar jumpsuit like the other girls and even the number 7 on her chest It's also interesting to note that the design of Cossete's plugsuit is the same as the Sunrider's Crew. Where as the plugsuits that the prototypes wear is different. Of course this doesn't really prove anything, it's just interesting to note.
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Post by admiralcheese on Aug 15, 2017 19:27:50 GMT -8
This is why we need to seize the means of waifu production my dudes.
We shall solve this mystery.
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Post by Nemjen on Aug 15, 2017 22:51:34 GMT -8
Clearly Cosette and the Sunrider crew have a great fashion sense whereas the prototypes are using last summer's lines. The problem with having a mindstream is even if the world tell you that you're outdated it only takes one thought of 'but I like this design' for the others to feel this way.
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Post by pancakefury on Aug 22, 2017 13:57:56 GMT -8
Judging by how the LD ended there is enough potential to make not one, but ten additional arcs. Or, at the very least, two - first, they hunt down the remaining prototypes, then face the Ryuvian guy.
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Post by vincent on Aug 22, 2017 14:48:43 GMT -8
I was a hardcore Chigara fan until she screwed everything up and turned Yandere. Unfortunately, I then jumped ship to Sola. No more happy bakery ending 4 me... It was convoluted enough how she managed to get into the mindstream without what seemed like inconsistency in storytelling. My hopes are they can at least just leave her arc alone and just move on with the fact that her story has been on a downward spiral in actual success with the story, or at least they can acknowledge and fix her character for the actual flaws and not just put a new coat of paint on her and label her as a new person practically over nothing.
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Post by artos on Aug 23, 2017 19:58:05 GMT -8
Hmm well here are my thoughts on this matter, Crow showing up, Chigara taking control of the prototypes, Alpha and Cosette are still on the loose oh and lets not forget Kuushana rallying the red horde to paint the galaxy red with equality for all it would be a sin to abandon all that! I assume the next role for shields in that story would be to learn of more of Sola and her timeline learn of crow (is the ebon fleet his fleet or is it an alien race?) and the menace I assume him to be and please no forced romances! instead give us a harem option call it happy ending for all! furthermore I assume shields would try to unite the galaxy once again against the threat or threats and in the end rule the galaxy with his harem of cute girls and live happy ever after or so I would like the next game to have more side missions or repeatable missions to give it a little bit of more flexibility to get more funding and intel to upgrade ships, and character missions! I know I know I am talking like a continuation will be made but heck they would be total dicks to build our expectations up and then abandon us no?
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Post by limith on Aug 23, 2017 23:51:32 GMT -8
They could go the Eushully Route of having 3 main story lines and NG+. I liked that aspect of Kamidori and Madao. For financial reasons, make 1 route. Then sell other routes as DLC. NG+ is something I would really really like btw, I basically modded in NG+ in sunrider by increasing difficulty and carrying over upgrade points via starting value.
1 Route against Ryuvian threat 1 Route against Prototypes - say you date Sola so Ryuvian problem is butterflied away 1 Route you align with Ryuvian/Prototypes
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Post by ChapterSerf on Aug 24, 2017 19:25:54 GMT -8
1 Route against Prototypes - say you date Sola so Ryuvian problem is butterflied away Why would the Crow Ryuvia problem go away if you're dating Sola? Sola and Crow were enemies.
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Post by limith on Aug 24, 2017 22:08:43 GMT -8
1 Route against Prototypes - say you date Sola so Ryuvian problem is butterflied away Why would the Crow Ryuvia problem go away if you're dating Sola? Sola and Crow were enemies. Sola unleashes her secret awakening and blasts the fleet to smithereens xD jk, I misremembered things.
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Post by Nemjen on Aug 24, 2017 22:24:07 GMT -8
Why would the Crow Ryuvia problem go away if you're dating Sola? Sola and Crow were enemies. Easy, the power of love baby!
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Post by magicdragon on Aug 30, 2017 12:37:33 GMT -8
I always found it peculiar that Cossete has English lines from MoA. If you do the route in LD that allows you to use her in the last LD mission, and you have your combat voice lines set to English, she's fully voiced. Well i have the theory she originally was going to be joining the sunrider crew, i always thought it was strange she had a similar jumpsuit like the other girls and even the number 7 on her chest Yeah, definitely a possibilty. Though the plugsuit itself is a suit designed to help counteract the g-forces that the pilots are subjected to during combat, the number 7, which coincided directly with the number of one of the bays in the Sunrider, does make it possible. That does bring up another question though. According to Ava, the Sunrider was built to house a total of 12 Ryders. So far, we've only seen a total of 7 possible applicants, maybe 8 if you were to count L7NN. Even with the Sunrider itself destroyed, it begs the question, who exactly were the other pilots supposed to be? Seeing as in the next installment, we've got Thrawn, Crow, the remmanants of the Alliance, as well as the Pirates, led by Cossete, to face, it wouldn't really surprise me if there were a few surprise guests who show up. I have never played Sunrider MoA through as a pirate. This has me wondering if she might join your crew if you were a pirate, or maybe Cossete would stick around at the end of LD after the the final battle instead of flying away the first chance she got. Hrmm seems I need hoist the colors and play through again. So I finally finished a run through MoA and LD having chosen pirate and it doesn't seem to have any real effect on the over all story arc, nor does Cossete show any loyalty or willingness to stay with the crew after the final battle.
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Post by hakazu on Mar 13, 2018 1:35:24 GMT -8
I assume that there have not been any new news about a new game for Sunrider right?
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Post by defieroftheodds on Mar 13, 2018 8:34:23 GMT -8
No there hasnt been any solid information about future sunrider releases as far as I'm aware.
A few things though:
As Sunrider is love in space's most popular title, a fourth sunrider will most likely generate them the most income. I think it's within love in space's own interest to create another sunrider on a commercial basis.
Many fans and people on this forum would like a fourth sunrider after the release of starnova. Although the developers have not made any commitments to a future sunrider (unless you count the cliffhanger ending and the 'sunrider will return') and are entitled to work on any game they wish, there may be some backlash from the fanbase if we are 'kept in the dark' on future sunriders for a long period of time.
Love in space did have to rely on donations from fans to make the sunrider games and starnova. There were a few cuts made in MoA due to lack of funds. A fourth sunrider most likely will not occur without funding from the fanbase so nothing is guaranteed. (liberation day was fairly successful so the growth in the fanbase due to this game might attract new donators)
Magpie has stated that plans are created long in advance to the game actually being announced so it is possible that there is already a plan for sunrider 4.
It is important to take note of the fact that three games were planned for sunrider. A fourth is not necessarily going to be made. We are not entitled to a fourth sunrider game either. As far as I am aware, love in space have made no promises and they are well within their rights to create whatever they want.
*Just my opinion from here*
I'm actually in favour of love in space taking their time on a possible fourth sunrider and follow a doctrine of quality over quantity. It might just be me but liberation day felt a little rushed and unpolished compared to MoA. (This would require more funding and donations though which as I stated can't be taken for granted)
The only thing that was a major disappointment for me in Lib day was that to me, the game lost the feeling of being an independent Ceran ship with its crew united by its bonds and instead the sunrider felt like it became an alliance ship as the game was rather narrative driven. Although the Sunrider would have had to join the alliance fleet to liberate Cera, the game had the sunrider follow the alliance fleet every step of the way. The lack of dialogue which didn't advance the plot seemed to make the crew seem less united.
Maybe im the only person which has this opinion. I would say that Lib day was still a good game but I would like to see this aspect if/when the next sunrider is released.
*finds ripped up sunrider 4 plan outlining ideas for the introduction of loot boxes and micro-transactions*
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Post by clove on Apr 8, 2018 5:46:45 GMT -8
I'm in favor of the next Sunrider being produced by any means necessary, at quality equal to the previous games.
Except no lootboxes. And no holding part of the game for ransom like Final Fantasy 13-2. I actually didn't buy anything from Final Fantasy 12 on, but when I heard about 13-2 putting the good ending behind a paywall it made me really happy I wasn't buying their product anymore.
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Post by ChapterSerf on Apr 27, 2018 8:55:33 GMT -8
No, what's going to happen is this.
After a small number of battles, you get a lootbox. You can't proceed further into the game without opening the aforesaid lootbox. Opening the lootbox has one random card. The card determines which route is unlocked. You get the Icari card, you end up romancing Icari at the end. In order to unlock further endings and routes you have to spend money on microtransactions to get another lootbox with another card that MIGHT be different from the one you got already. Of course, all the endings and routes ARE in the complete package when you download from either Steam or Denpa, but you have to get the card of the characters in order to do that route. No Icari card? No Icari route. No Ava Card? No Ava route.
Isn't in genius? Think of the feelings of pride and accomplishment you get at completing each ending that you get lucky enough to get in a lootbox! Isn't it great?!
Excuse me while I violently expel the contents of my stomach into my toilet.
In all seriousness though, I doubt we'll see lootboxes or paywall endings in the next Sunrider. We kick enough scratch their way on Kickstarter or Patreon, we'll get all our endings in one nice package. That being said, I'll be sad if we don't get some snide comments about them.
Kayto: Next thing you're going to tell me is that all our Ryder upgrades come in randomly, magically appearing boxes that we pick up after killing so many enemies in a battle that, upon being opened, apply random upgrades to random systems across the Sunrider and our Ryders which may or may not actually be beneficial to our strategy. Ava: All the while providing a sense of pride and accomplishment, Captain. Kayto: ...When do we get our pink paint job?
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Post by Lyli on May 3, 2018 2:43:55 GMT -8
ChapterSerf You're forgetting that the next installment of Sunrider will be a Battle Royale game. Also lootboxes will contain cute cosmetics you can dress everyone up in as well as Ship and Vanguard Cannon skins! However this also means that you might have to buy multiple lootboxes to even get a route card since the lootboxes will be oversaturated with cosmetics. Also you can pull a duplicate of a route card you already have but don't worry, it will translate into 1/1000th of the in game currency you need to buy a different route card! When you get a route card you also have to get 1st place to get mission points to fill up the progress bar for the route card. Once the route card is completed you can finally play the route! Then you have to refill the card's mission points to unlock the eroge scenes for the route. This also means that cosmetic cards can gain progress points to unlock chibi pin slots to attach to your clothes or stickers on your ship and guns! Overall I believe this is the next great step for the Sunrider series as it will become even more rewarding and the sense of pride and accomplishment you mentioned will all be worth it. And you get to show your loyalty and dedication to Sunrider to all the other captains and put them to shame with how awesome and decked out your uniform and weaponry is. Best of all? You get to play on ONE whole map in the entirety of the game. Maybe there will be more maps but right now the deserts and abandoned mining facilities of Tydaria make for a great combat map. The game starts with the Sunrider going into low orbit and all 100 of the characters jumping out the cargo bay into the atmosphere. Then picking up basic combat pistols and melee weapons in the facilites and finally leading up to bigger assult rifles and katanas and maybe some special weapons like rare mini hunter drone ball grenades. All the players will slowly get closer together when the sandstorms start to ravage the area and close in on a circle until only one remains! Sounds great! (In all honesty without all the microtransaction stuff I mentioned before, despite the fact I despise battle royale games this actually seems fun as hell.)
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Post by magicdragon on May 3, 2018 10:17:23 GMT -8
Don't forget the stuffed animals for Kayto's desk that will also be saturating the lootboxes and model ships for the shelves behind his desk. Gotta collect em all cause rumor is your FTL contacts will be impressed by your collection and give you better missions.
(Ummm devs don't actually read these forums do they? I fear they may think we would actually like these ideas.)
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Post by Nemjen on May 3, 2018 11:05:17 GMT -8
(Ummm devs don't actually read these forums do they? I fear they may think we would actually like these ideas.)
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Post by Ardanis on May 22, 2018 10:38:41 GMT -8
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