Post by planguy on Nov 14, 2020 19:35:45 GMT -8
Just a way that fans can see the obvious problems with the story of Sunrider 4 and provide feedback so that another Chigara situation doesn't show up. I figure patrons are going to get the majority of sway for voting for stuff to include in the game but sometimes they're too close to the product to provide decent feedback for quality, or they might not feel like it's their place to provide unasked for feedback. I mean, Liberation Day had play testers and they seemed to completely overlook the problems that the majority of actual purchasers had with the game that were so bad that free dlc had to be released to mitigate some of the damage. Hell, even if the game was supposed to be the "Empire Strikes Back" of the Sunrider series and it had to end on a downer note you could have still done that while respecting player agency. You could have had a downer ending without taking away the most important aspect of player agency in a waifu game, the player's choice of waifu. Even if the intent was for the disaster of the Chigara "romance" to be a part of the common route with the actual Chigara romance being resolved later in the game feedback from the fans would have shown that nobody would like that. The Chigara failed romance should only have happened when you were on the Chigara romance route. Otherwise something else should have led to the Liberation Day Massacre.
So anyways is there going to be any advance info for what's going down in Sunrider 4? Warnings that the game is going full kinetic novel? Warnings if there are going to be more railroaded romances? Warnings that Chigara was a red herring waifu option and that her failed romance is as far as you'll ever get to romance her? (This one I'm worried about. I despise Chigara but I still want those people who were fans of her original character to have the option to get her back as her original self and not some mind broken yandere. Hell, Chigara fans were the worst hit by the Chigara railroad.) Is player agency going to be returned at any point? Will our choices matter? Will there be any kind of in game apology or olive branch extended to the people who were burned by the game in the past? (Kayto pointing out the ridiculousness of his past actions and the like) Is there going to be any doubling down on decisions made in the past? Like are there going to be extra attempts to get people to care about Chigara? Will the player be punished for taking negative choices with regards to Chigara? Is a "Good End" going to be locked behind the Chigara redemption route? Will any of the girls be a true route? (for the love of god don't make any of the girls the "True Route") Will Sunrider 4 have an ending? Or is it going to be another game without an end that leads to another Sunrider game? I'm hoping for an ending, or at least the ending of the common route and the start of romance routes. I'm hoping that there actually are romance routes, not the current status quo that can't change because it's impossible to model those changes if you make 15 Sunrider games. Will the game continue to try to be "deep" and subvert expectations or will there be an attempt to make a story that people actually like? You know, sometimes people like character archetypes and you don't need to make the shy cute girl a corrupt enemy agent or the dumb genki girl a jealous maniac. Perhaps your first western focused VN should have a simpler story, you know?
So anyways is there going to be any advance info for what's going down in Sunrider 4? Warnings that the game is going full kinetic novel? Warnings if there are going to be more railroaded romances? Warnings that Chigara was a red herring waifu option and that her failed romance is as far as you'll ever get to romance her? (This one I'm worried about. I despise Chigara but I still want those people who were fans of her original character to have the option to get her back as her original self and not some mind broken yandere. Hell, Chigara fans were the worst hit by the Chigara railroad.) Is player agency going to be returned at any point? Will our choices matter? Will there be any kind of in game apology or olive branch extended to the people who were burned by the game in the past? (Kayto pointing out the ridiculousness of his past actions and the like) Is there going to be any doubling down on decisions made in the past? Like are there going to be extra attempts to get people to care about Chigara? Will the player be punished for taking negative choices with regards to Chigara? Is a "Good End" going to be locked behind the Chigara redemption route? Will any of the girls be a true route? (for the love of god don't make any of the girls the "True Route") Will Sunrider 4 have an ending? Or is it going to be another game without an end that leads to another Sunrider game? I'm hoping for an ending, or at least the ending of the common route and the start of romance routes. I'm hoping that there actually are romance routes, not the current status quo that can't change because it's impossible to model those changes if you make 15 Sunrider games. Will the game continue to try to be "deep" and subvert expectations or will there be an attempt to make a story that people actually like? You know, sometimes people like character archetypes and you don't need to make the shy cute girl a corrupt enemy agent or the dumb genki girl a jealous maniac. Perhaps your first western focused VN should have a simpler story, you know?