Post by YoureNormalSheevite on Aug 24, 2018 22:22:16 GMT -8
After finishing the final mission of the Total Annihilation: The Core Contingency. The ending is about the CORE Commander imploding the entire galaxy to recreate it, a thought came to my mind, "What if the CORE Empire is the precursor to the Holy Ryuvian Empire" think about. Sora had mentioned that the Holy Ryuvian Empire had the technology to destroy the entire galaxy this seems a tad bit similar to the capabilities of the Galactic Implosion Device.
For all people who don't know the TA universe. Total Annihilation is the elder brother of the Annihilation Trinity (Total Annihilation, Supreme Commander, and Planetary Annihilation), the Total Annihilation universe contains stuff that allows them to beat the Forerunners and even to the Culture with enough prep time and allows reverse engineering.
They can pretty much do this:
And other stuff, but this is the crap that they do in the TA universe.
Always-on cloaking systems and ECM for each and every unit they own, with more powerful versions on certain specialized stealth units. (this is how they explain the low sight ranges in-game- their sensors can only burn through the cloaking and ECM at a relatively close range)
Heavy Armor that makes use of structural integrity fields that make matter act as a single giant molecule.
Energy cannons that focus the entirety of their tremendous energy output on a single microscopic point, allowing them to puncture the above armor.
D-Guns that turn off the Strong Force in a large cone-shaped area, causing all matter to violently rip itself apart, leaving only hydrogen, deuterium, and a burst of free neutrons behind.
Lasers that fire continuously into a grid of frozen spacetime which is then launched as a bolt toward a target.
10 million degree plasma bolts. (irritatingly, we're not told if it's degrees Celsius, Fahrenheit, or Kelvin)
They treat antimatter like children's candy, tossing it around with wild abandon.
Nanolathes make use of teleporting nanites to create virtually anything, from robots to living tissue. They can also reprogram robots and mind-control living organisms as well.
Cutscene construction times are over 4x faster than in-game.
A single K-bot can potentially restart the CORE's entire civilization if left to its own devices. (presumably the same applies to the ARM) One possible explanation for how they could do this is that the unit's internal nanolathes (used for fabricating ammo and such) slowly cannibalize portions of the unit and modify themselves to the point where they can be used to start constructing stuff externally.
Speaking of which, most units have internal nanolathes that are used to create ammo on the fly from raw materials or to maintain themselves.
At one point the CORE had only a single commander left in existence. One week later, it had created construction yards that were pumping out large quantities of new commanders to replenish their ranks. A week after that, and 'thousands' of commanders were being sent to fight in a conflict over a single sector.
A single CORE Commander can store the minds of several trillion intelligent beings in its onboard computer systems.
The ARM once blew up half a planet with portable explosive charges, exposing the core.
Entire planets have been known to have been scorched down to bare bedrock as a side-effect of battles taking place on them, and the asteroids that rain down on some maps are said to be the remains of planets that have been blown up completely during the course of the war.
One battle involving several hundred units and no nukes resulted in 'gigatons' worth of firepower being exchanged.
Both the CORE and the ARM engaged in stellar engineering projects on several occasions, creating artificial planets and towing natural planets to new locations.
The CORE once built a planet-sized superweapon (and towed 3 other planets into equidistant points around the star) in a matter of weeks. The superweapon, or Orbital Weapons Platform as it was called, could hit any location in the galaxy and be powerful enough to make small stars go supernova. It also had an FTL sensor with similarly huge range playing spotter for it, although IIRC it took a few months to make a complete scan, and planets could block the scanner. The ARM responded to the threat by buying time, towing uninhabited planets in front of important worlds to hide them from the deep-space scanner and to act as ablative armor to protect them from the weapon itself. Later on, they came to a more permanent solution to the threat by destroying it. (amusingly enough, the CORE rarely used the weapon on inhabited planets because it caused, and I quote, 'public relations' issues. )
Just remembered a little more about the weapon. Firing it disrupted communications across the entire region of space nearby, causing most of the CORE to lose touch with the familiar presence of CORE Prime for an extended period. In light of that, maybe the public relations issues were due to morale issues stemming from the side-effects it had on the CORE's own citizens. It'd certainly make more sense than them being worried about blowing up enemy-held planets. (unless things had progressed to the point that useable planets were seen as an increasingly rare resource in the war-torn galaxy, making their destruction something of a mutual taboo between the two factions?)
The ARM and CORE's 4,000 year long war depleted the resources of an entire galaxy.
This despite having access to energy-to-matter converters and metal extractors that could reach all the way down to the mantle of a planet.
The ARM's clones and the CORE's patterns have the memories of all their previous selves implanted in them, which means each and every combat unit is a hardened badass with potentially thousands of years worth of combat experience behind it. Since each unit is manned and capable of independent action, it also means that killing the commander isn't quite the automatic win condition it is in Supcom.
The ARM was once trying to develop a new strain of clones with 'faster reflexes, keener senses, and the ability to tear the head off of an AK without batting an eye.' That's right, they were trying to create clones strong enough to easily tear the heads off of house-sized robots resistant to antimatter strikes. The CORE took their research seriously enough that they mass-scattered the planet the project was being conducted on. (the existence of organic lifeforms that are a threat to TA units are another point toward the likelihood of their research goals actually being attainable)
Everything you see in-game is nothing more than the crippled remnants of two once-mighty civilizations, far diminished from what they were capable of during the height of their war.
Both sides once had substantial space fleets. Even in the modern day, the ARM still had a few spaceships that can hold over a billion refugees each.
The CORE had a moon-sized battlestation guarding CORE Prime from space attack, absolutely bristling with surface to orbit weaponry.
And last but not least, the infamous Galactic Implosion Device, capable of imploding the galaxy and recreate it.
Heavy Armor that makes use of structural integrity fields that make matter act as a single giant molecule.
Energy cannons that focus the entirety of their tremendous energy output on a single microscopic point, allowing them to puncture the above armor.
D-Guns that turn off the Strong Force in a large cone-shaped area, causing all matter to violently rip itself apart, leaving only hydrogen, deuterium, and a burst of free neutrons behind.
Lasers that fire continuously into a grid of frozen spacetime which is then launched as a bolt toward a target.
10 million degree plasma bolts. (irritatingly, we're not told if it's degrees Celsius, Fahrenheit, or Kelvin)
They treat antimatter like children's candy, tossing it around with wild abandon.
Nanolathes make use of teleporting nanites to create virtually anything, from robots to living tissue. They can also reprogram robots and mind-control living organisms as well.
Cutscene construction times are over 4x faster than in-game.
A single K-bot can potentially restart the CORE's entire civilization if left to its own devices. (presumably the same applies to the ARM) One possible explanation for how they could do this is that the unit's internal nanolathes (used for fabricating ammo and such) slowly cannibalize portions of the unit and modify themselves to the point where they can be used to start constructing stuff externally.
Speaking of which, most units have internal nanolathes that are used to create ammo on the fly from raw materials or to maintain themselves.
At one point the CORE had only a single commander left in existence. One week later, it had created construction yards that were pumping out large quantities of new commanders to replenish their ranks. A week after that, and 'thousands' of commanders were being sent to fight in a conflict over a single sector.
A single CORE Commander can store the minds of several trillion intelligent beings in its onboard computer systems.
The ARM once blew up half a planet with portable explosive charges, exposing the core.
Entire planets have been known to have been scorched down to bare bedrock as a side-effect of battles taking place on them, and the asteroids that rain down on some maps are said to be the remains of planets that have been blown up completely during the course of the war.
One battle involving several hundred units and no nukes resulted in 'gigatons' worth of firepower being exchanged.
Both the CORE and the ARM engaged in stellar engineering projects on several occasions, creating artificial planets and towing natural planets to new locations.
The CORE once built a planet-sized superweapon (and towed 3 other planets into equidistant points around the star) in a matter of weeks. The superweapon, or Orbital Weapons Platform as it was called, could hit any location in the galaxy and be powerful enough to make small stars go supernova. It also had an FTL sensor with similarly huge range playing spotter for it, although IIRC it took a few months to make a complete scan, and planets could block the scanner. The ARM responded to the threat by buying time, towing uninhabited planets in front of important worlds to hide them from the deep-space scanner and to act as ablative armor to protect them from the weapon itself. Later on, they came to a more permanent solution to the threat by destroying it. (amusingly enough, the CORE rarely used the weapon on inhabited planets because it caused, and I quote, 'public relations' issues. )
Just remembered a little more about the weapon. Firing it disrupted communications across the entire region of space nearby, causing most of the CORE to lose touch with the familiar presence of CORE Prime for an extended period. In light of that, maybe the public relations issues were due to morale issues stemming from the side-effects it had on the CORE's own citizens. It'd certainly make more sense than them being worried about blowing up enemy-held planets. (unless things had progressed to the point that useable planets were seen as an increasingly rare resource in the war-torn galaxy, making their destruction something of a mutual taboo between the two factions?)
The ARM and CORE's 4,000 year long war depleted the resources of an entire galaxy.
This despite having access to energy-to-matter converters and metal extractors that could reach all the way down to the mantle of a planet.
The ARM's clones and the CORE's patterns have the memories of all their previous selves implanted in them, which means each and every combat unit is a hardened badass with potentially thousands of years worth of combat experience behind it. Since each unit is manned and capable of independent action, it also means that killing the commander isn't quite the automatic win condition it is in Supcom.
The ARM was once trying to develop a new strain of clones with 'faster reflexes, keener senses, and the ability to tear the head off of an AK without batting an eye.' That's right, they were trying to create clones strong enough to easily tear the heads off of house-sized robots resistant to antimatter strikes. The CORE took their research seriously enough that they mass-scattered the planet the project was being conducted on. (the existence of organic lifeforms that are a threat to TA units are another point toward the likelihood of their research goals actually being attainable)
Everything you see in-game is nothing more than the crippled remnants of two once-mighty civilizations, far diminished from what they were capable of during the height of their war.
Both sides once had substantial space fleets. Even in the modern day, the ARM still had a few spaceships that can hold over a billion refugees each.
The CORE had a moon-sized battlestation guarding CORE Prime from space attack, absolutely bristling with surface to orbit weaponry.
And last but not least, the infamous Galactic Implosion Device, capable of imploding the galaxy and recreate it.
My Short and Potato theory is that, after the CORE Commander had succeedded to protect the Galactic Implosion Device from the ARM forces and let the device recreating the entire galaxy into a new one, the CORE Commander and all of it's units and buildings had been deactivated due to the effects of the Galactic Implosion Device. The Galactic Implosion Device had also recreated the human race in the stone age and are on the planet that holds the perfectly intact deactivated CORE Commander, After a hundred of thousands of years of human evolution, the entire human race on the planet are united because of an alien threat and are known as the Holy Ryuvian Empire, after centuries of attack from the alien threat, they have found the ancient CORE Commander and all of it's assets, trying to reverse engineer and getting data from it, the Holy Ryuvian Empire had become the most technolgically advanced empire in the galaxy and have based Ryder tech on the CORE Commander body. The Holy Ryuvian Empire have destroyed the alien threat with ease and tries to conquer everything and destroy all aliens because of the century attacks from the aliens.
TL;DR: CORE Commander recreates the galaxy and recreates the human race through the Galactic Implosion Device, after hunderds of thousand of years of humans living, a powerful alienrace came to invade them, they united and created the Holy Ryuvian Empire, found the CORE Commander, reverse engineer it. The first ever Ryders are based on the CORE Commander and all other Lost technology are based on CORE Empire Technology. Also all aliens are dead because the Holy Ryuvian Empire declared a Holy Crusade on all aliens because Xenophobic and Religious reasons.
Any thoughts, thesis, improvements, hypothesis, counterarguments, and etc. to my short and potato theory, if so, REPLY.
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