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Post by valikdu on Mar 8, 2016 6:16:03 GMT -8
After I'd first finished MoA a year ago, I'd tried to find some more games like it on Steam. I couldn't find any; there didn't seem to be anything with the same kind of story focus and quality art.
I've tried again after finishing LD just now, but with the same result.
Can someone point me to some "VN-plus other genre" games, probably also made by Western developers, that would help me wait for the next Sunrider?
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Post by vaendryl on Mar 8, 2016 6:36:04 GMT -8
there are a lot 'VN-plus other genre' games out there, but virtually none of them are sci-fi themed. I'd recommend utawarerumono and kamidori alchemy meister. I'm also going to count the very popular Phoenix Wright games into this faction, which you can get on DS quite easily now. Closest thing in game-play to Sunrider that I know of is the super robot wars series, but hardly any of the titles are officially translated and released in english afaik. It's been very popular in Japan for decades though. similar to fire emblem I think. You'll of course want to keep an eye out on Sierra Ops if it ever comes out, and you might want to give a look at the upcoming game The Mandate. Finally, shout-outs to the awesome 'Rising Angels', of which the newer entries into the series are supposed to have some minor 'investigation' gameplay. still very good without any gameplay though. |
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Post by Nemjen on Mar 8, 2016 7:56:10 GMT -8
!?! I hear a Utawarerumono name drop. I fully recommend it if you manage to get your hands on a copy (as they are quite a pain to acquire now) just remember that there is no official porting so you will have to use the mirrormoon translation patch if you want to play the VN in English. Continues hoping for a fan translation / port of the False Faces. |
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Post by wingcapt4 on Mar 8, 2016 9:09:02 GMT -8
Tears to Tiara. The first one's originally for the PC, but they made a remaster of it for the PS3 with improved graphics. The 2nd one just came out recently on the PS3 too (been a year probably).
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Post by vaendryl on Mar 10, 2016 3:20:23 GMT -8
Also, you should check out the front mission series of games. I can't imagine anyone not liking that if they like Sunrider.
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Post by KnightOfXentar on Mar 10, 2016 4:37:04 GMT -8
I'd recommend utawarerumono and kamidori alchemy meister. I'm also going to count the very popular Phoenix Wright games into this faction, which you can get on DS quite easily now. Finally, shout-outs to the awesome 'Rising Angels', of which the newer entries into the series are supposed to have some minor 'investigation' gameplay. still very good without any gameplay though.
lol
Rising Angels:Reborn ??
Hmm, I don't know, it's art style looks so gay. Oh, it's main protagonist is woman, that explains a lot.
And one of the tags say "imposed romance"? And it has 3 hour average game length?? Oh, I see what you did there. That's how it is similar to Sunrider:Liberation Day 
and since you suggested Utawarerumono and Kamidori Alchemy Meister, might as well suggest Sengoku Rance and Eiyuu*Senki (both in english)
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Post by Somasam on Mar 12, 2016 0:24:47 GMT -8
If you want a game that is both story heavy and has tactical turn based strategy game-play like Sunrider, I'd recommend any of the Fire Emblem games. More fantasy focused, but really solid gameplay, good stories, and fun characters that you will try your best to not get horribly horribly killed-off for good.
One game I have heard of and seem some of, but not actually played myself would be Infinite Space by Platinum games. From what I gather its in space and its got a lot of story and characters, with some sort of tactical combat.
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Post by Histidine on Mar 12, 2016 5:05:41 GMT -8
The closest thematic resemblance to Sunrider is the Galaxy Angel series. - Handsome space captain commands a combat carrier
- from which the waifus fly fighter-type craft
- and you pick one of the waifus to date
- and together, you save the galaxy!
- ...if the ship's executive officer doesn't beat him to death for slacking off on paperwork, that is.
Key differences: - It's a lot more lighthearted and less grimdark than Sunrider
- It's real-time — with no real strategy needed in most cases. The fighters fight on their own and can generally take care of themselves even if you don't do anything; you just need to give them relevant orders once in a while. But hey, this lets you admire the pretty graphics.
It has a yamato nadeshiko in it, which means its waifu set is better than Sunrider's
It's only available in Japanese, but you can find translation patches here (look in the stickied threads). Wiki is here if you need it. |
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Post by 白龍 on Mar 12, 2016 5:18:27 GMT -8
The closest thematic resemblance to Sunrider is the Galaxy Angel series. - Handsome space captain commands a combat carrier
- from which the waifus fly fighter-type craft
- and you pick one of the waifus to date
- and together, you save the galaxy!
- ...if the ship's executive officer doesn't beat him to death for slacking off on paperwork, that is.
Key differences: - It's a lot more lighthearted and less grimdark than Sunrider
- It's real-time — with no real strategy needed in most cases. The fighters fight on their own and can generally take care of themselves even if you don't do anything; you just need to give them relevant orders once in a while. But hey, this lets you admire the pretty graphics.
It has a yamato nadeshiko in it, which means its waifu set is better than Sunrider's
It's only available in Japanese, but you can find translation patches here (look in the stickied threads). Wiki is here if you need it. Now I remember part of the reason why I loved the Sunrider so much. It reminded me of Galaxy Angel. Not enough space Sci-Fi VNs if you ask me. |
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Post by fay on Mar 12, 2016 20:26:27 GMT -8
If you can get your hands on it, Galaxy Angel! It has space whales and adorable girls and beautiful space battles!
Eiyuu Senki is another turn-based strategy game with lots of lewdness and cuteness in it. The art is sooo good.
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Post by 白龍 on Mar 12, 2016 21:05:07 GMT -8
If you can get your hands on it, Galaxy Angel! It has space whales and adorable girls and beautiful space battles! Eiyuu Senki is another turn-based strategy game with lots of lewdness and cuteness in it. The art is sooo good. Milfeulle! <3 |
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Post by Gamerjunkie27 on Mar 12, 2016 23:58:29 GMT -8
I enjoyed Kara no Shoujo when I read it. It's got story with murder investigation parts mixed in. I'm slowly making my way through the sequel whenever I'm in the mood for reading a VN.
A few warnings before any of you start KnS:
1.) This WILL be difficult without a guide.
2.) There is a pseudo-prequel to it, Cartagra, which lacks the investigation parts, but has the same general atmosphere. Cartagra is set in the same world, albeit at an earlier point in time, and various bits from it are incorporated into Kara no Shoujo 2.
3.) There is some pretty fucked up shit in this game. Like, damn.
4.) Keep your filthy otaku hands away from Tsuzuriko or I WILL have to maim you.
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Post by Mirilene on Mar 14, 2016 3:37:10 GMT -8
Hmmm, I'd like to bring up Super Robot Wars again. Actually, there is at least one game that has a pretty good fan translation. That one would be Judgement. But to play that you need a) a gameboy advance emulator (which shouldn't be so hard to get) and b) of course a file of the module. That's a bit more tricky to get, because the "original" file that was at romhacking aerie has been infected by a virus, so, welp, good luck with that. Should still be a few more around though. So, it's a gameboy advance game from ~2004, so don't expect superb graphics. To be honest, I'd even say it's a bit more complex than Sunrider. Of course you can upgrade the units - like, HP, armor, energy, firepower and all that, but you also got to spend points on pilot skills, like, melee damage, evasion, hit chance and similar stuff. Also each unit has several slots for modules, which enhance units. For example, with basic consumables for energy, ammo, hp, but there are also modules that for example increase your weapons range, provide a shield/barrier, allow ground-based units to fly and similar. The list is pretty long, thankfully every module is explained ingame. Also, every pilot has 1-3 slots for modules who, again, improve abilities or provide abilities, for example shooting down incoming missiles (a very useful skill). Aaand several units have exchangeable gears. Some units from Gundam Seed for example can use different "packs" that sport different weapons. For example a melee-focused pack, one for long range engagements, and so on. Also units perform depending on terrain. Some units fight better when they're on the ground, while almost all units perform poorly when you have to fight below the ocean surface. (With a few exceptions) Anyway, it's a good game - if you like Real Robot/Super Robot series. J features, lemme think ... Mazinkaiser, Dancougar, Combattler, Voltes and Zeorymer - as Super Robots. As Real Robot it features Gundam Seed, G Gundam, Brain Powerd, Martian Successor Nadesico, Full Metal Panic! and SPT Layzner. Oh, also Tekkaman Blade. You don't really need to know any of these series to understand the game, but it could be helpful. There are a lot of videos around on youtube for further info.  Yeah, this old lady isn't biased or something. Certainly not, especially as I have only played through the entire game to date 47 times. Oh, did I mention that it has a superb New Game+ mode ...? (Also people say it's ridiculously easy. Even I managed to beat it without cheats. When I never even could beat FA/MoA/LD on Waifu mode without pretending to be a dev.) |
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Post by clove on Apr 20, 2016 0:52:33 GMT -8
It's not a virtual novel, but you could try "Supreme Commander" and "Supreme Commander:Forged Alliance". It requires a better computer to play than most games. The Cybran campaign was probably the most interesting story-wise. You have to listen to guidance from a cyborg brain who used to be a scientist to try to keep your faction alive by waging a guerilla war.  Main idea is that battles are fought on planets in distant galaxies. It's too expensive to send armies through warp gateways, so instead a "commander" is sent through driving his mech. The commander's mech has engineering capabilities on top of combat abilities, so a base and army is then created on the spot. At the end of the tech tree it features giant godzilla type units that can destroy entire armies by themselves. And cannons so large they shoot across continents. One of the three factions has a mortar cannon that doesn't have a maximum reach. It takes ridiculous resources and time to build. I don't recommend the sequel "Supreme Commander 2". There's XCom. You can get XCom with the expansion "Enemy Within" for pretty cheap if you wait for a sale. It's turn based tactics, like Sunrider. Graphics are more realistic and very near future. Not anime or virtual novel, but if you like Sunriders battles Xcom is worth looking at. Also NOT a virtual novel though. Mechwarrior 4 Mercenaries is fun. You command a squad of mechs, and you pilot one yourself. You choose what mechs you use, what pilots you hire. You choose what weapons to mount and speed and armor. It's an older game from the early 2000's, but you can get it used or download it. The game uses a pilots joystick. Some people get frustrated trying to learn the controls. Also NOT a virtual novel though... |
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Post by shieldwall on Apr 24, 2016 3:14:13 GMT -8
So, after reading this I've been trying kamidori alchemy meister and I don't find it bad. But... ... why can't I unlock Yuela's route? >_> Every walkthrough says always the same things, but fact is that Uya is not joining. I completed 2 alcohol quests and I can't complete the third one because even if I have 20k I don't have a dialogue to buy. Also, I never even got the Aht armor because... I don't know why, there simply never was a dialogue to get it. I got the measurement scene with the dark armor though so it should be good, right? I only have the "Get to level 4" quest, but even with my shop upgraded and my rep twice of what I would need I don't get any dialogue to get on... there's simply nothing more, I have no more quests anywhere. What is this game even doing? >_> |
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Post by 白龍 on Apr 28, 2016 14:27:24 GMT -8
So, after reading this I've been trying kamidori alchemy meister and I don't find it bad. But... ... why can't I unlock Yuela's route? >_> Every walkthrough says always the same things, but fact is that Uya is not joining. I completed 2 alcohol quests and I can't complete the third one because even if I have 20k I don't have a dialogue to buy. Also, I never even got the Aht armor because... I don't know why, there simply never was a dialogue to get it. I got the measurement scene with the dark armor though so it should be good, right? I only have the "Get to level 4" quest, but even with my shop upgraded and my rep twice of what I would need I don't get any dialogue to get on... there's simply nothing more, I have no more quests anywhere. What is this game even doing? >_> I uhh, honestly don't know what you're doing wrong.. One night I saw her leaving and I decided to stalk her. Que enter Yuela route* |
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Post by nukemind on May 2, 2016 16:47:17 GMT -8
R-Type command comes to mind for Turn Based Space Game. Some of the ships even have super powered Wave Guns. Sadly, only one was made available to the USA.
Fire Emblem is a medieval TRPG. It's always had a good story but the two most recent, similar to the old Thracia one, also have pairings and even children.
I here Nekopara is a good VN.
I ain't a VN person in general, definetely a TRPG person, but I do enjoy good stories. R-Type Command has a pretty boring story, but I've seen worse. If you just want to be a privateer, assemble a fleet that doesn't fight on your side, you could play Sid Meier's Pirates. It's on both PC and iOS.
I can't think of any others off the top of my head. I wish they would make a good Gundam or Space Battleship Yamato strategy/tactical game, would play that to the end of days.
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Post by Blackhead on May 2, 2016 21:25:40 GMT -8
Depends on whom you ask, I guess.  I don't think it has much in common with Sunrider, and it represents in so many ways the things that are unbearable for me in anime. Games like that are (rightfully) responsible for the bad stigma anime holds in the west. It would easily make it in my "worst 10." |
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Post by 白龍 on May 2, 2016 22:25:19 GMT -8
Depends on whom you ask, I guess. I don't think it has much in common with Sunrider, and it represents in so many ways the things that are unbearable for me in anime. Games like that are (rightfully) responsible for the bad stigma anime holds in the west. It would easily make it in my "worst 10." It's okay. I hate Nekopara and am officially part of the "Boycott Japanese anime related games on Steam" group. ... ... No, I totally hate it. That is my official stance and the stance I'd vote for. .. Totally. ... I don't go back on my word. .. You can find me in those angry crowds boycotting these types of games. .. Totes. . It also goes on my least favorite games list. .. . . I-I'm not kidding! Believe meeee! |
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Post by nukemind on May 3, 2016 0:28:44 GMT -8
Depends on whom you ask, I guess. I don't think it has much in common with Sunrider, and it represents in so many ways the things that are unbearable for me in anime. Games like that are (rightfully) responsible for the bad stigma anime holds in the west. It would easily make it in my "worst 10." Fiar enough, I was just saying what I hear. I have two other VN's besides Sunrider. Both were gifted to me trying ot get me into VN's, and neither I've played to completion. One is Nekopara, the other is My Girlfirned is the President. I found the second distasteful and stopped playing, the first I haven't started. I'm not a fan of gratuitous nudity or sex. That being said, as someone who really got into anime just a few years ago, always thought HS DxD was the worst of the worst. Then I lost a bet and had to watch it. I actually enjoy the plot in that show, just not the plot. That is, it has an interesting backstory in a way, similar to Maoyu (SP?) where Demons are good, or at least Morally grey, and has a well fleshed out story. I just wish they didn't package it in Ecchi as it prevents me from watching it to much. Again... got into this a a Turn Based RPG fan, stayed for the story (and SOLA. SOLA SOLA SOLA SOLA SOLA. Rightful Empress Sola, Sola the great!) |
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Post by shieldwall on May 3, 2016 13:00:37 GMT -8
I uhh, honestly don't know what you're doing wrong..
One night I saw her leaving and I decided to stalk her. Que enter Yuela route* Yeah, I got the mistake, never spoken to the companions in the house .-. |
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Post by jack on Jun 5, 2016 23:18:34 GMT -8
I'd recommend Rance I guess. Haven't really found anything that really resembles Sunrider. I often dig through vndb when I'm bored, and Sunriders pretty unique.
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Post by 白龍 on Jun 6, 2016 13:06:32 GMT -8
I'd recommend Rance I guess. Haven't really found anything that really resembles Sunrider. I often dig through vndb when I'm bored, and Sunriders pretty unique. Sengoku Rance??? YUS! |
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Post by jack on Jun 6, 2016 18:31:45 GMT -8
I'd recommend Rance I guess. Haven't really found anything that really resembles Sunrider. I often dig through vndb when I'm bored, and Sunriders pretty unique. Sengoku Rance??? YUS! That reminds me. The next OVA for Quest for Hikari is supposed to be coming out on the 26 th
I really wish thy hadn't done it as a hentai though. |
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Post by vladek on Jun 28, 2016 2:51:03 GMT -8
Btw, I saw some VNs on steam which sound interesting.
Do you can tell me something about them? Are they nice? Compared to sunrider?
The VN are:
-Fruits of Grisaia
-Ace Academy
Greez
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Post by vaendryl on Jun 29, 2016 22:01:35 GMT -8
I quite like fruits of grisaia. it's really quite a silly game with silly stories (even when it's sorta serious it's still very out there) but the ero parts are decent enough.
I only played the first part of Ace Academy and that wasn't enough to really be able to judge the narrative, but the dialogue was decent and the voice acting overall a lot better than I would expect from a english VN. the combat when I played it was just a placeholder, but no idea what they'll come up with eventually.
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Post by zophor on Jul 2, 2016 14:19:00 GMT -8
Hmmm, I'd like to bring up Super Robot Wars again. Actually, there is at least one game that has a pretty good fan translation. That one would be Judgement. But to play that you need a) a gameboy advance emulator (which shouldn't be so hard to get) and b) of course a file of the module. That's a bit more tricky to get, because the "original" file that was at romhacking aerie has been infected by a virus, so, welp, good luck with that. Should still be a few more around though. So, it's a gameboy advance game from ~2004, so don't expect superb graphics. To be honest, I'd even say it's a bit more complex than Sunrider. Of course you can upgrade the units - like, HP, armor, energy, firepower and all that, but you also got to spend points on pilot skills, like, melee damage, evasion, hit chance and similar stuff. Also each unit has several slots for modules, which enhance units. For example, with basic consumables for energy, ammo, hp, but there are also modules that for example increase your weapons range, provide a shield/barrier, allow ground-based units to fly and similar. The list is pretty long, thankfully every module is explained ingame. Also, every pilot has 1-3 slots for modules who, again, improve abilities or provide abilities, for example shooting down incoming missiles (a very useful skill). Aaand several units have exchangeable gears. Some units from Gundam Seed for example can use different "packs" that sport different weapons. For example a melee-focused pack, one for long range engagements, and so on. Also units perform depending on terrain. Some units fight better when they're on the ground, while almost all units perform poorly when you have to fight below the ocean surface. (With a few exceptions) Anyway, it's a good game - if you like Real Robot/Super Robot series. J features, lemme think ... Mazinkaiser, Dancougar, Combattler, Voltes and Zeorymer - as Super Robots. As Real Robot it features Gundam Seed, G Gundam, Brain Powerd, Martian Successor Nadesico, Full Metal Panic! and SPT Layzner. Oh, also Tekkaman Blade. You don't really need to know any of these series to understand the game, but it could be helpful. There are a lot of videos around on youtube for further info. Yeah, this old lady isn't biased or something. Certainly not, especially as I have only played through the entire game to date 47 times. Oh, did I mention that it has a superb New Game+ mode ...? (Also people say it's ridiculously easy. Even I managed to beat it without cheats. When I never even could beat FA/MoA/LD on Waifu mode without pretending to be a dev.) I'm actually working on a SRW/Sunrider fanfic...not sure if it'd be called a crossover or fusion since it only involves one SRW character getting involved early in the war. Main problem is trying to ensure he doesn't come across OP since those kinda fanfics are my bane. Here's an idea why . An interesting VN I've been playing Aselia the Eternal. High in challenge and with six ladies you can get involved with each with their own ending plus a secret SEVENTH ending if you romance all six through different playthroughs. |
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Post by vladek on Jul 3, 2016 3:22:08 GMT -8
I quite like fruits of grisaia. it's really quite a silly game with silly stories (even when it's sorta serious it's still very out there) but the ero parts are decent enough. I only played the first part of Ace Academy and that wasn't enough to really be able to judge the narrative, but the dialogue was decent and the voice acting overall a lot better than I would expect from a english VN. the combat when I played it was just a placeholder, but no idea what they'll come up with eventually. Okay, I bought Ace Academy on Friday and I think it's awesome. It have great humor, nice romantics and a good plotline. It's not that serious as Sunrider (or less less serious), atm there are no eroge-content (just some kisses, sweet beachs Scenes etc, but I'm very happy with this - don't Need sex for a nice VN) but very lovly Girls (hard to decide which one to date) and nice art/sound. The battles are just QTE but they are okay and fulfill their purpose great. After I played it (EarlyAcess atm) I made strait a Patreon-pledge for it; it feels like a kind of Sunrider Academy with more Dialoge-Content but no Management. Only Problem is that you played throu in just 8 hours. I'm not sure... but all Ace Academy is like Sunrider from northern America - and it feels that these VNs are much better then the japanese ones ^^ I can still decide what I have to think about Fruits of Grisaia, but atm I'm happy enought with Ace Academy. Greez |
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Post by zophor on Jul 3, 2016 12:31:03 GMT -8
If you're not adverse to using an emulator the Advance Wars series is a good way to kill time.
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Post by valikdu on Aug 26, 2016 13:58:16 GMT -8
I've been pointed to Just Deserts, which is a military-themed VN. Feels sort of like Sunrider, although the quality seems lower. Well, it's something. |
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