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Post by sabrewolf on Feb 3, 2016 2:53:30 GMT -8
Can you choose your love interest in the final version of Liberation Day? I would be disappointed if you can't.
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Post by warchiefwilliams on Feb 3, 2016 11:36:52 GMT -8
That's something we are all curious about. I know that there are affection values in the code, but so far all they have done has affected the availability of side missions in some mods and the ability to unlock specialist equipment, like the Phoenix's cloak. While a linear story (and a singular path) would be alright with me, it would be nice to at some point branch out and have different routes for each of the characters in the squad.
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Post by Nemjen on Feb 3, 2016 11:48:23 GMT -8
I was under the impression with the love interests was they relate to key decisions taken in First Arrival / Mask of Arcadius (and possibly more in Liberation Day?). You can see a bulk of them when you press 'start' in the beta and are presented with the 'input history' menu. This is a very typical approach in visual novels, part of the experience is identifying the decisions which trigger each path (love interest).
Maybe we will see something like Sunrider Academy where there is a linear story but you will be prompted with options to choose a route after making certain decisions / reaching a certain point in the story.
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Post by steve on Feb 4, 2016 18:51:03 GMT -8
I dont think so <possible spoiler>
if you unpack the data files there is only a CG of sex with Chigara
</possible spoiler> but Chigara is my waifu ;-) |
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Post by Nemjen on Feb 4, 2016 22:56:02 GMT -8
Maybe the devs thought that was the only route any of us would pick, on a amusing note the two main save files I usually mess around are what I believed were Chigara routes.  #TeamChigara #LetsStartThatBakery |
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Post by Marx-93 on Feb 5, 2016 8:58:12 GMT -8
For now the game is linear. It has some branching points, but nothing much besides it. So everyone is forced on the Chigara route.
I believe the final beta will be lineal too, but it will probably have different endings in which the character's affection points may or may not play a purpose. While I'm not sure on the others, considering Ava's popularity and her importance, I would be surprised if she doesn't have her own ending. Asaga was supposed to be the main heroine too.
Of course, what we don't know is how these endings may play out, or if they will be happy.
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Post by Nemjen on Feb 5, 2016 15:18:13 GMT -8
For now the game is linear. It has some branching points, but nothing much besides it. So everyone is forced on the Chigara route. I believe the final beta will be lineal too, but it will probably have different endings in which the character's affection points may or may not play a purpose. While I'm not sure on the others, considering Ava's popularity and her importance, I would be surprised if she doesn't have her own ending. Asaga was supposed to be the main heroine too. Of course, what we don't know is how these endings may play out, or if they will be happy. I guess in that regard it helps simplify the testing environment as (and if) there is a plan for routes they can be put into the later builds when the core mechanics have been refined. Personally I am going to hold onto the hope that they will be in the final build (release) mostly because the series contains decision making and a big part of this system is making the player feel as though their decisions matter. And if you even think about doing a Mass Effect 3 with coloured endings team LiS...  |
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Post by Somasam on Feb 5, 2016 15:55:45 GMT -8
I am personally wearing my tin foil hat right now, and saying that the devs are hiding the other routes from us.
They send the betas out with one route so that people can play and test most all the missions, yet not have all the story spoiled. While the beta only focuses on the Chigara route, the master file contains routes for all the characters and will see the light of day on launch. I will hope to see the route with the blue haired one.
Hopefully the final game also allows us to make more choices than are currently in. So far, compared to the other two games we seem to have had almost no choices, other than to save or kill Cosette, and to keep or get rid of her rider if we did. Really hoping we will be able to have more choices that effect the relation points and more in the final game, but we will wait and see for that.
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Post by yuuki on Feb 5, 2016 16:25:23 GMT -8
I am personally wearing my tin foil hat right now, and saying that the devs are hiding the other routes from us. They send the betas out with one route so that people can play and test most all the missions, yet not have all the story spoiled. While the beta only focuses on the Chigara route, the master file contains routes for all the characters and will see the light of day on launch. I will hope to see the route with the blue haired one. Hopefully the final game also allows us to make more choices than are currently in. So far, compared to the other two games we seem to have had almost no choices, other than to save or kill Cosette, and to keep or get rid of her rider if we did. Really hoping we will be able to have more choices that effect the relation points and more in the final game, but we will wait and see for that. I'm assumin this is the case as well. It wouldn't make sense to only have a Chigara story, especially after Ava was considered the most popular character. Also, after Sunrider Academy would seem like a huge tease, having the main series be a linear game where your forced into one girl's route |
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Post by vaendryl on Feb 5, 2016 23:04:17 GMT -8
you probably shouldn't expect such grand ploys xD
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Post by yuuki on Feb 6, 2016 1:33:45 GMT -8
you probably shouldn't expect such grand ploys xD I mean ,i didn't mean anything big by that, I was just saying that after having Sunrider Academy, it would be weird to not have multiple routes in the actual game. It would just simply disappoint a lot of fans that want a different story besdies Chigara's. |
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Post by Nemjen on Feb 6, 2016 3:18:48 GMT -8
you probably shouldn't expect such grand ploys xD But I have already wished upon a star.   |
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Post by Marx-93 on Feb 6, 2016 5:47:00 GMT -8
... Considering LiS speed in releasing new material, I find it unlikely even though I would wish it too (I also want my blue haired one route~~).
However, it wouldn't be the first time Samu-kun trolled us, and he himself said he wished to continue Sunrider after Lib Day. So maybe he plans to make it mostly lineal, with different ending and then after it new games that build on these endings?
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Post by Drath on Feb 6, 2016 6:31:28 GMT -8
... Considering LiS speed in releasing new material, I find it unlikely even though I would wish it too (I also want my blue haired one route~~). However, it wouldn't be the first time Samu-kun trolled us, and he himself said he wished to continue Sunrider after Lib Day. So maybe he plans to make it mostly lineal, with different ending and then after it new games that build on these endings? Yea it looks like we ARE getting Liberation Day on March 4th and beta 12 isn't available yet. I dunno how much feedback I can give within the next couple of weeks or if the devs are making further adjustments/content after beta 12. It'd be a fairly short last third if the game ended with another battle or two. I also thought Samu-kun wanted a vacation after Lib Day  But surely he should give us something that feels complete before he goes on vacation Oh well, right now I'm not hoping for too much, I just hope I can help weed out any last bugs in time with March 4th being less than a month away. |
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Post by redemyr on Feb 6, 2016 9:41:07 GMT -8
iirc they released the betas for Academy one girl at a time or similar... I've just become a patron so it's something I read in passing while skimming through the message history...
In Sunrider Academy I only played Ava and Asaga's route, was courious about Sola's but then some other game cought my attention and I moved on... And while I can understand Chicara's selling points it's just not something I'm willing to buy, so I'll be quite dissapointed if she ends up being the only option available...
I have to admit the next paragraph is biased since I prefer Ava above all others (by a fair margin) but I have to say it.
I was quite dissapointed with the transition between the end of Mark of Acadius and the beginning of Lib Day in regards to her story, you get all these beautiful flashbacks into their relationship in highschool (some sort of an alternative version of Academy, or the opposite I guess), then you get the big choice, where Kaito basically screams his love for her in front of the whole crew and then a few moments later he's all over Chirara and Ava is pushed to the sidelines with a couple of lines...
Anyway, I guess we'll have to wait and see, after all you don't create a ship full of cute girls(with different traits and personalities ), add a buch decisions related to them and then make the story linear... although from what I've seen of the story about the betrayal and stuff it only works if Kaito is smitten with Chicara but then again since we might only have access to her route it makes sense...
Tl;dr: I hope they game features a choice in regards to Kaito's affections, especially Ava...
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Post by Nemjen on Feb 6, 2016 11:40:18 GMT -8
You know what would disappoint me? If we do not get a 'space whale' route...
Yes LiS, I have not forgotten the 'Romancable Space Whales' was on the cards in the original Kickstarter. emoticon_asaga_small
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Post by Marx-93 on Feb 7, 2016 4:05:05 GMT -8
You know what would disappoint me? If we do not get a 'space whale' route... Yes LiS, I have not forgotten the 'Romancable Space Whales' was on the cards in the original Kickstarter. emoticon_asaga_small If you want that, then I'm plenty sure Samu-kun will oblige if you pass him a check with 60k$ needed to reach that goal~~ On the Betas for Academy, yes, they did it like that, but they also completed each route before moving on. Seeing as the release date is only one month away, I simply don't think there's enough space to build significant routes (different endings with different girls yes, but wholly different routes like Academy? I don't believe so). |
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Post by Nemjen on Feb 7, 2016 4:11:40 GMT -8
You know what would disappoint me? If we do not get a 'space whale' route... Yes LiS, I have not forgotten the 'Romancable Space Whales' was on the cards in the original Kickstarter. emoticon_asaga_small If you want that, then I'm plenty sure Samu-kun will oblige if you pass him a check with 60k$ needed to reach that goal~~ I have plenty of pocket lint available if that passes as currency, this month has been expensive. |
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Post by yuuki on Feb 7, 2016 5:48:55 GMT -8
I think that adding in routes as time goes isn't a problem whatsoever. It just would be good to know that information at least by the day of the Official Release. I personally am not a big fan of Chigara (having a grudge since Academy), so even if it's months after, getting to see a different route would be swell as pie (I also hold a lesser grudge against Asaga for the start of her Academy route, though because she totally cockblocks Chigara, ironically. ). |
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Post by nomotog on Feb 8, 2016 6:57:23 GMT -8
I refuse to let chigara seduce me.
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Post by Nemjen on Feb 8, 2016 7:11:30 GMT -8
I refuse to let chigara seduce me. Your waifu is already decided for you.  Also don't be a bore and use guest, sign up and join us on the battlefield solider. |
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Post by nomotog on Feb 8, 2016 8:12:06 GMT -8
I refuse to let chigara seduce me. Your waifu is already decided for you. Also don't be a bore and use guest, sign up and join us on the battlefield solider.I tried to avoid Chigara the best I could. It's not really appropriate to date any of them. |
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Post by Nemjen on Feb 8, 2016 10:02:15 GMT -8
Your waifu is already decided for you. Also don't be a bore and use guest, sign up and join us on the battlefield solider.I tried to avoid Chigara the best I could. It's not really appropriate to date any of them. Out of curiosity why do you feel like it's inappropriate to date any of them? At this point in development I would say that they are presented more as love interests (we had Sunrider Academy for dating needs) with the exception of Chigara who is woven into the plot of Liberation Day (or at least what we have seen). Ps. Welcome to the forum. |
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Post by paulrico on Feb 8, 2016 10:16:08 GMT -8
I personally hope that in the final version of Liberation Day, or hopefully in the next part of the story that takes place after it (keeps fingers crossed), we will be able to make some kind of choice about who are love interest is, but considering previous beta builds and how Mask of Arcadius never gave an option for anything of the sort, I am readying myself for disappointment on this issue. Of course, I am a fan of Claude and Asaga, and I don't quite understand the appeal of Chigara.
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Post by nomotog on Feb 8, 2016 11:31:26 GMT -8
I tried to avoid Chigara the best I could. It's not really appropriate to date any of them. Out of curiosity why do you feel like it's inappropriate to date any of them? At this point in development I would say that they are presented more as love interests (we had Sunrider Academy for dating needs) with the exception of Chigara who is woven into the plot of Liberation Day (or at least what we have seen). Ps. Welcome to the forum. Because your their commanding officer. You literally order them around. It's not the most healthy relationship. |
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Post by Nemjen on Feb 8, 2016 12:39:42 GMT -8
Out of curiosity why do you feel like it's inappropriate to date any of them? At this point in development I would say that they are presented more as love interests (we had Sunrider Academy for dating needs) with the exception of Chigara who is woven into the plot of Liberation Day (or at least what we have seen). Ps. Welcome to the forum. Because your their commanding officer. You literally order them around. It's not the most healthy relationship. Depends the crew of Sunrider may have a uniform fetish and this arrangement works out perfectly for them. |
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Post by warchiefwilliams on Feb 8, 2016 15:15:16 GMT -8
While I am not expecting anything insane, it would be nice to see other routes. I haven't been overtly fond of Chigara since both playing her Academy route and that she tends to not really do anything on the battlefield for me (those damn supports like targeting her with disable for me...) so seeing at least one other romance route would be nice.
You know what I want to see though? Some backstory for Claude. She is still the biggest unknown in a crew that has an assassin (Icari), a rouge princess (Asaga), a potential mole, an elite spy(Kryska), and an ancient being (Sola). All we know about Claude is that she is a pervert with medical training. There has to be more.
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Post by redemyr on Feb 8, 2016 21:32:46 GMT -8
Considering how this game is half strategy game and half VN, and it's VN side has the standard tropes for a romance novel like:
An area (this time a ship) popululated with a group of cute girls, each with different personalities...
Most of them (I'm exclusing Icari and the alliance officer) are smitten with the MC...
All choices except those related to the cover up involve the girls somehow, whether it's to support one over the other, to hang out with one and not the other, etc.
So yeah, it would be really weird if after having all the standard points the game failed to deliver on the main issue (choosing the LI)...
Unless somehow they want to play the MLA card somehow, which is imo on the few failings of that great game...
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Post by vaendryl on Feb 8, 2016 23:03:13 GMT -8
I think the game isn't as much about the romance as people assume. it's surely more like mass effect or MLA than, say, clannad.
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Post by Marx-93 on Feb 9, 2016 3:40:40 GMT -8
I think the game isn't as much about the romance as people assume. it's surely more like mass effect or MLA than, say, clannad. ... I would agree with you if half the plot of Liberation day weren't scenes of either Asaga cursing about Chigara due to being jealous, or Chigara being cutesy and lovey-dovey with the captain... Oh, well, you know I was always more for the SRPG part though. And asking things about the setting. |
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