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Post by orikomikuni on May 26, 2018 8:09:38 GMT -8
At the end of Liberation Day Ava is basically got no ship to stay with. How would her Ryder's design if she use one?
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Post by Nemjen on May 26, 2018 11:40:08 GMT -8
Ryder? Pfft, no Ava is a ship gal. It would be a Cera Gunboat and she'd ride it like a coin operated ride.
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Post by neppi on May 26, 2018 13:39:46 GMT -8
How about this one Maybe too badass for Ava.
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Post by Sorzo on May 26, 2018 18:13:34 GMT -8
Imagine a massive stack of paperwork.
Then add guns.
Bam.
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Post by riaru on May 27, 2018 13:17:13 GMT -8
Or a massive ryder that fires stacks of paper
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Post by magicdragon on May 29, 2018 4:49:23 GMT -8
How about this one Maybe too badass for Ava. Perhaps it need a dish for transmitting its hack that disables the enemy ryder such that they ryder keeps giving them the error msg 'That function is unavailable until you have properly completed the correct request form.'
Pilot: Fire lasers!
Virus: That function is unavailable until you have properly completed the correct request form. Pilot: What!?! Launch missile! Virus: That function is unavailable until you have properly completed the correct request form. Pilot: Lateral thrusters! Dodge DODGE!!! Virus: That function is unavailable until you have properly completed the correct request form. Pilot: What are you talking about filling out forms? Virus: Basic Ryder operations rule-book Section 317-2 clearly states that all pilots must fill out a form 5150 for approval of the requested action. Pilot: WHAT!?! This is a battle, there's no time for forms! That's just CRAZY! Virus: Did you just insult proper paperwork? Ryder: Systems shutting down, reactor sleep mode engaged. Goodbye.
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Post by neppi on May 30, 2018 16:45:59 GMT -8
SO we still need a ryder for her
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Post by magicdragon on May 31, 2018 20:38:19 GMT -8
Since Sunrider is red and white, and her ryder is red and white I was thinking her plugsuit should be red and white. (I would have like to have gotten my pic to look like neppi's but my photo editing skills suck.)
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Post by neppi on May 31, 2018 22:36:45 GMT -8
Since Sunrider is red and white, and her ryder is red and white I was thinking her plugsuit should be red and white. (I would have like to have gotten my pic to look like neppi's but my photo editing skills suck.)
Can you send me the original file of this suit? I can do it for you
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Post by Crewman1 on Jun 3, 2018 17:27:44 GMT -8
I imagine Ava would wear a crisp black pilot suit to compliment her (possible) eyepatch, and that her Ryder would be another heavily armored one just like Kryska's but with some support functions to denote her status as a leader. Instead of calling attention to herself she would spend a substantial amount of energy designating a target to ensure all other Ryder's could peg it at a distance. It makes sense for her to use a heavy ryder because (1) it was already established the Sunrider needed one and (2) Cosette runs off, thus leaving the niche vacant once again.
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Post by neppi on Jun 5, 2018 21:38:25 GMT -8
I imagine Ava would wear a crisp black pilot suit to compliment her (possible) eyepatch, and that her Ryder would be another heavily armored one just like Kryska's but with some support functions to denote her status as a leader. Instead of calling attention to herself she would spend a substantial amount of energy designating a target to ensure all other Ryder's could peg it at a distance. It makes sense for her to use a heavy ryder because (1) it was already established the Sunrider needed one and (2) Cosette runs off, thus leaving the niche vacant once again. Your ryder looks more like a heavy ryder with a big cannon, which is the same like the Paladin (more or less). The girls in Sunrider referred more to a heavy bomber ryder, like Cosettes - with heavy missiles and torpedos. So what do you think suits Ava more?
I work on a project to make a tournement between all the pilots on the Sunrider (with my Jaguar pilot from my mod). However those are only 7 pilots, so I thought about letting the Sunrider join as a 8th unit. BUT of course I could imagine that they build a simulator where Ava is controling a ryder. (Maybe she was tricked into participating or something). And there could be funny scenes how people try to teach her the basics and stuff.
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Post by Crewman1 on Jun 6, 2018 3:55:17 GMT -8
Yeah, while the Havoc sounded great on paper I found Cosette's Ryder rather useless once the missile payloads were depleted. Therefore another Paladin-esque Ryder would be more useful in my mind. A heavy ryder would definitely fit Ava's no no-nonsense attitude, and you could still strap some Torpedoes onto the frame if you're willing to ditch the assault rifle.
I also think a heavy ryder might be easier to learn off the bat because they don't do as much in a single turn as some of the other ryders due to their ponderous movements and heavy weapons. So much better for a beginner like Ava.
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Post by orikomikuni on Jun 7, 2018 5:16:53 GMT -8
Man I though the waifu battle royal was a joke. Never though it would become real.
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Post by ChapterSerf on Jun 7, 2018 14:55:41 GMT -8
I imagine her ryder would look very similar to the old Sunrider, but sleeker, with smoother edges and a blue and white motif instead of the read and white one. As, in my mind, I see them getting an Ancient Ryuvian Assault Carrier, the design of which was the basis of Cera's (and later PACT's) assault carrier, but an actual working STC ship. Not the bastardized, jury-rigged versions that Cera and PACT use. That's what I see Ava using in battle in the next Sunrider game. NO AVA RYDER! CAPITAL SHIPS ONLY!
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Post by Crewman1 on Jun 7, 2018 17:51:18 GMT -8
I imagine her ryder would look very similar to the old Sunrider, but sleeker, with smoother edges and a blue and white motif instead of the read and white one. As, in my mind, I see them getting an Ancient Ryuvian Assault Carrier, the design of which was the basis of Cera's (and later PACT's) assault carrier, but an actual working STC ship. Not the bastardized, jury-rigged versions that Cera and PACT use. That's what I see Ava using in battle in the next Sunrider game. NO AVA RYDER! CAPITAL SHIPS ONLY! Yes, we get. Ava likes big ships and that's no lie The others can't deny That ships are better with armored frames And round flak cannons up in place You'll just salute, or going to get rough Because the First Mate just saw you Slack-off Beneath that Eyepatch she is glaring Out to the void unless you stop staring Oh man, got double shift in the kitchen Good ship will host a proper cooking fixture My comrades tried to warn me But that armored hull really takes... (a real hounding!)
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Post by general-aetius on Jun 7, 2018 18:37:41 GMT -8
I just want her ryder to have a matching eye patch.
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Post by clove on Jun 29, 2018 12:55:25 GMT -8
I imagine Ava would have a Ryder without a great gun or laser. It could be equipped with a gravity gun since she likes to push people around. And a melee-range hacking module that lets her take over an enemy capital ship.
edit: And I suppose it can have an eyepatch too. Arrrrrgh.
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Post by Crewman1 on Jun 29, 2018 15:03:47 GMT -8
A Ryder that was actually useful in close combat with ships would be nice. Sure Claude had her Shotgun, and Kryska could finally get off an accurate shot - but neither one is intended to focus on dispatching enemies at close quarters (inasmuch as Claude should focus on support). The problem with ryders specializing, for me at least, is that there are never enough doing the same thing to apply the tactic across the battlefield.
Although since many Ryders were wiped out or MIA at the end (Chigaru's, Claude's, & I guess you could technically count Cosette at the end), I suppose the team will need to be reconstituted from the ground up. Hopefully the Blackjack will be more useful this time around...
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Post by clove on Jun 29, 2018 18:07:39 GMT -8
I've been playing these games again recently. I was thinking it was silly for Asaga to be awakened and doing 300% damage and all of it can still be negated by enemy shields. If her bonus damage while being awakened would penetrate shields at a 100% rate I think that would make her more of a contender for most useful, instead of a side mech with no real strong point. Which is kind of sad when she is always talked up as being sharr and the most powerful.
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Post by Crewman1 on Jun 29, 2018 18:25:22 GMT -8
I've been playing these games again recently. I was thinking it was silly for Asaga to be awakened and doing 300% damage and all of it can still be negated by enemy shields. If her bonus damage while being awakened would penetrate shields at a 100% rate I think that would make her more of a contender for most useful, instead of a side mech with no real strong point. Which is kind of sad when she is always talked up as being sharr and the most powerful. Asaga, even with little investment, can cut through unshielded vessels with her laser once awakened - although this tactic becomes less viable when Chigara is unable to heal her mech in combat. A mixture of shield disruptions and gravity pulls is often enough to pull up a good target. Although this is usually the work of Chigara and the Mining Union Vessels (with shield disrupt and gravity pull) since Claude is usually going to be debuffing everything. There is frankly never a long enough campaign with enough cash and points to make a real dream team with each mech leveled to perform their roles well. Atleast not if you want Sola to be able to score two hits in a single turn. An Ava Ryder would likely be sidelined and forced to pull it's own weight using base capabilities if they bring up the full mech lineup again. This can easily be solved with more sidequests, which there were not enough of in Liberation Day - although this was likely to prevent easy access to the OP upgrade of the Sunrider's Vanguard Canon. If you've ever seen that upgraded Vanguard in action you will cry UTE the instant it goes off with glee. But I only saw it because I was setting up one of my games on easy mode and had plenty of cash on hand.
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Post by magicdragon on Aug 10, 2018 4:35:26 GMT -8
So I liked the idea of a black ryder for Ava so I modified one of the pact ryders with a bigger gun and a hacking dish.
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Post by clove on Aug 11, 2018 19:03:04 GMT -8
I really like Ava in black.
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Post by magicdragon on Jul 20, 2019 11:01:30 GMT -8
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Post by clove on Aug 14, 2019 15:48:35 GMT -8
Just read the news of a new sunrider coming up.
Coming back to this thread, it would be funny if they capture cosette a second time... and then Ava has to pilot the Havoc. You know, since Ava wanted the Havoc scrapped in the last game but you ordered it fixed anyways because it is a resource.
Ava: "I can't pilot this thing, it is associated with murder and destruction across the galaxy!"
Kayto: "Ok Ava, I'll just let Cosette out of the brig again and she can fly it instead."
Ava: "Damn it. Fine. Which button activates the giant chain-saw sword? You are gonna be doing so much paperwork later when the complaints and protests bombard us later. "
Kayto: "Don't worry Ava, we'll paint the Havoc black for you later. I bet you'd look good in a black plug-suit.
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Post by mihis on Jul 10, 2022 12:27:46 GMT -8
I have read the posted posts and agree with some of them. And now I'll tell you how I would like to see Ava and her raider. First about colors. The black is definitely nice and suits Ava's strict style, but I'd probably prefer Sunrider's colors: gray with red splashes. I do not agree that Ava should have hacking tools - she is a good commander, but I think she is no technician. I would like to see a raider in the form of assault support. For example, some missiles, a new weapon in the form of an autocannon, two kinetic shots for 200 damage and good accuracy (but not a sniper), a gravity gun (for situational control, which is what Ava likes), and decent anti-aircraft guns (possible with a long range). Well, of course, good armor, at the level of Blackjack, for example.
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