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Post by admiralcheese on Mar 14, 2016 21:59:50 GMT -8
Alright Sola has a comfortable enough lead. I can give a courtesy vote now.
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Post by Marx-93 on Mar 15, 2016 0:20:25 GMT -8
Oh boy, Marx. Normally I find myself agreeing with you on most subjects, but this threesome bullcrap is no bueno. I talked about circle jerking before, and this is exactly what I meant. If there will be no individual Kryska or Icari route so be it, this shouldn't justify what I'd call 'the fanservice/clusterfuck route.' Just think ahead for two seconds and imagine how this plays out from a story perspective: Kayto ditches all other girls (who have serious romantic feelings for him (Asaga), he has history with (Ava)) just to have a crazy sex orgy with characters, who appear to have SERIOUS, twisted complexes and issues, all this during an intergalactic war. He'd become the biggest, fucking joke ever.  A childish and pathetic starship Captain, who has no controll over himself whatsoever. Kayto had a hard time, he should at least retain an ounce of dignity. No matter how hard you tried to implement that, the conversations/interactions would always feel laughable, awkward and cringeworthy. The whole premise is retarded on multiple levels and compulsorily leads to horrible characterization. You think a love triangle is terrible? Take a love triangle and remove the arrows and you get this crap - so basically the middle part of Lib. Day in even worse. All involved characters can only lose, the story suffers, the only winner is someone who enjoys the extra explicit content. Typically someone who doesn't give a shit about the said characters and their portrayal anyway. I'll just say that I've read more than one case where they took that kind of route seriously with all of its serious implications (loving 2 people at the same time and figuring how to face that love against society's standard) and they execute it fairly well, so I can assure you I at least am thinking of something very different and clearly not an "orgy route". Your lack of faith is understandable though, specially if we get little time to develop it. (Also, I personally think love triangles are awesome; just very hard to do well without falling into old cliches and stupidity) Finally; most people who enjoy extra explicit point of one character in particular is because they care about that character. If they didn't care they would have enough with any kind of explicit content. People don't spend over 20$ in something they don't care when you have all the free Porn in the internet. |
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Post by quirriff on Mar 15, 2016 3:26:42 GMT -8
There are 5 invalid votes....
Votes that should go to Ava.
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Post by foujiz on Mar 15, 2016 4:09:27 GMT -8
Hmm, Kuushana (Pact Admiral Lady) will probably become an awesome character, but for now, i'll stick to the best space pirate of the galaxy.
I also have a hope that Lynn may redeem Chigara's character, giving her more depth than the average and really boring Yamato Nadeshiko type.
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Post by Endershadow on Mar 15, 2016 4:59:47 GMT -8
At the end of the final beta and 1.0, I wasn't really sure who I wanted to vote for so I voted for Chigara like I had in the past. But after playing 2.0 I decided to vote for Lynn.
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Post by Orin on Mar 15, 2016 9:30:33 GMT -8
I had to vote for Cosette because I could never see her as a real enemy and she impressed me somehow the most. In some way she is so similar to Shield but everything is so much more impossible for her because she already lost in the beginning. She didn´t grow up on a liberated & peaceful world in the Neutral Rim as Ava und Kayto on Cera comperable with the lifemaybe in Sunrider Academy. Instead she grew up on the corrupt & criminal world Ongess which was permanently under military occupation and economic exploitation of the galactic superpowers for the important Ongessite ore for warp drives. She maybe never had the experience of a real familiy or real friendship as on the Sunrider as Kriska often mentioned it. When Kayto lost everything he still had the Sunrider, his military training on Cera and Ava and a real choice if he wants to become a pirate because of a ship with no Cera flag or not. But Cosette instead had only the choice to sell herself and her life to the pirates to escape from the poverty and the slavery or to die unimportant in the hellish Ongessite ore mines in poorness. I admire her for her character strength & her willpower for not giving up and become a real good Ryder pilot who´s dream is the similar as Shield to liberate the homeworld planet. But it is Ongess in the Neutral Rim instead of Cera in the Neutral Rim. To liberate it with PACT had maybe nothing changed but at this time it was maybe her only chance to drive out the Alliance from Ongess and to improve the living for the Ongessians. Sure she was real pissed that her plan somehow failed to liberate Ongess because of Shield & Asaga & the other Ryders success. But I think she is much more pissed on the superpowers because of Ongess history and Admiral Grey´s reserve plan to nuke the fleet and Ongess and Veniczar Fontana betray in the end. So I think she hate the superpowers PACT and the Alliance more than Shield at the moment now. But for Shield it most be really hard too. He must hate the superpowers too. The Alliance tried to nuke Cera with the Paradox Core Tech and PACT conjured his homeworld and his little imouto died because of it and he do not know how the life is now for the people of Cera. Moreover Chigara had to die now because of Fontana. Yeah sure she is maybe not dead but to lose his love in such a way...this was really killing me somehow so I needed a break at this point. Cosette must have had the same feeling as the Player in Liberation Day when the momet appaerd where everything failed so close to her goal. I do not know what the future brings but maybe she trys now to get a new pirate flied and safe Ongess by herself. Somehow I have ever wished that Shield maybe can save her too and give her a normal life back. So as the other Girls have one on the Sunrider. And that on sometime Shield´s and Cosette´s dream of her liberated worlds come true.
But I voted for her in Liberation Day because it was for me one real highlight in the game to have the Havoc in the Hangar, to have Cosette on the Sunrider and that she fighted in the end to save the Sunrider still some time and that there was finally the opportunity to have her together with the Sunrider in battle. This was something really special for me. Something for what I hoped already in the old Sunrider. So yeah this seems to be my view and my reasons why I voted for Cosette as best waifu.
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Post by worstwaifu on Mar 15, 2016 10:17:47 GMT -8
I had to vote for Cosette because I could never see her as a real enemy and she impressed me somehow the most. In some way she is so similar to Shield but everything is so much more impossible for her because she already lost in the beginning. She didn´t grow up on a liberated & peaceful world in the Neutral Rim as Ava und Kayto on Cera comperable with the lifemaybe in Sunrider Academy. Instead she grew up on the corrupt & criminal world Ongess which was permanently under military occupation and economic exploitation of the galactic superpowers for the important Ongessite ore for warp drives. She maybe never had the experience of a real familiy or real friendship as on the Sunrider as Kriska often mentioned it. When Kayto lost everything he still had the Sunrider, his military training on Cera and Ava and a real choice if he wants to become a pirate because of a ship with no Cera flag or not. But Cosette instead had only the choice to sell herself and her life to the pirates to escape from the poverty and the slavery or to die unimportant in the hellish Ongessite ore mines in poorness. I admire her for her character strength & her willpower for not giving up and become a real good Ryder pilot who´s dream is the similar as Shield to liberate the homeworld planet. But it is Ongess in the Neutral Rim instead of Cera in the Neutral Rim. To liberate it with PACT had maybe nothing changed but at this time it was maybe her only chance to drive out the Alliance from Ongess and to improve the living for the Ongessians. Sure she was real pissed that her plan somehow failed to liberate Ongess because of Shield & Asaga & the other Ryders success. But I think she is much more pissed on the superpowers because of Ongess history and Admiral Grey´s reserve plan and Veniczar Fontana betray in the end. So I think she hate the superpowers PACT and the Alliance more than Shield at the moment now. But for Shield it most be really hard too. He must hate the superpowers too. The Alliance tried to nuke Cera with the Paradox Core Tech and PACT conjured his homeworld and his little imouto died because of it and he do not know how the life is now for the people of Cera. Moreover Chigara had to die now because of Fontana. Yeah sure she is maybe not dead but to lose his love in such a way...this was really killing me somehow so I needed a break at this point. Cosette must have had the same feeling as the Player in Liberation Day when the momet appaerd where everything failed so close for her goal. I do not know what the future brings but maybe she trys now to get a new pirate flied and safe Ongess by herself. Somehow I have ever wished that Shield maybe can save her too and give her a normal life back. So as the other Girls have one on the Sunrider. And that on sometime Shield´s and Cosette´s dream of her liberated worlds come true.
But I voted for her in Liberation Day because it was for me one real highlight in the game to have the Havoc in the Hangar, to have Cosette on the Sunrider and that she fighted in the end to save the Sunrider still some time and that there was finally the opportunity to have her together with the Sunrider in battle. This was something really special for me. Something for what I hoped already in the old Sunrider. So yeah this seems to be my view and my reasons why I voted for Cosette as best waifu.
I gotta respect that, fam. Neutral Rim for life. Alliance and PACT can take a hike back to their Imperialist holes. Switching my vote to Cose-chan. |
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Post by KnightOfXentar on Mar 15, 2016 11:02:50 GMT -8
I can honestly tell I said it both as a joke and as truth; if we have to face the dread of two best girls being unavailable, then I want to at least be part of that! And "freaking substitution dick"? Nay! Do you think of the ham in a sandwich as "substitution bread"? A sandwich is 2 slices of bread and a filling! The moment it doesn't have one of the components it falls apart, it stops being a sandwich! Long Live Sandwiches!
Of course, for the kinkier of our group, I never specified what kind of toppings can the sandwich have.Oh boy, Marx. Normally I find myself agreeing with you on most subjects, but this threesome bullcrap is no bueno. I talked about circle jerking before, and this is exactly what I meant. If there will be no individual Kryska or Icari route so be it, this shouldn't justify what I'd call 'the fanservice/clusterfuck route.' Just think ahead for two seconds and imagine how this plays out from a story perspective: Kayto ditches all other girls (who have serious romantic feelings for him (Asaga), he has history with (Ava)) just to have a crazy sex orgy with characters, who appear to have SERIOUS, twisted complexes and issues, all this during an intergalactic war. He'd become the biggest, fucking joke ever. A childish and pathetic starship Captain, who has no controll over himself whatsoever. Kayto had a hard time, he should at least retain an ounce of dignity. No matter how hard you tried to implement that, the conversations/interactions would always feel laughable, awkward and cringeworthy. The whole premise is retarded on multiple levels and compulsorily leads to horrible characterization. You think a love triangle is terrible? Take a love triangle and remove the arrows and you get this crap - so basically the middle part of Lib. Day in even worse. All involved characters can only lose, the story suffers, the only winner is someone who enjoys the extra explicit content. Typically someone who doesn't give a shit about the said characters and their portrayal anyway. geez stop being so negative. You might be afraid of poorly executed " orgy route", but nobody ever talked about it (though I am sure people would appreciate it). We simply implied dating Icari with some occasional sauce Kryska is perfectly reasonable route or they dont have to date Kayto, they could enjoy being alone as 2 girls, but they would love Kayto watching them doing it and Kayto could still date somebody else in free time, hehe |
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Post by shieldwall on Mar 15, 2016 11:12:19 GMT -8
I had to vote for Cosette because I could never see her as a real enemy and she impressed me somehow the most. Now, I don't want to look like the violent guy here but I reeeally hope they're giving us the choice to shoot her in the head  |
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Post by auro on Mar 15, 2016 12:38:16 GMT -8
Gotta go with Asaga on this one. Soooooo good.
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Post by vaendryl on Mar 15, 2016 13:49:24 GMT -8
I had to vote for Cosette because I could never see her as a real enemy and she impressed me somehow the most. Now, I don't want to look like the violent guy here but I reeeally hope they're giving us the choice to shoot her in the head You already have that option.  |
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Post by Nagashofchaos on Mar 15, 2016 13:55:57 GMT -8
Well, sorry L7NN. A dream has been created and I most race the banner forward. For dreams of a Confederacy of the Rim I switch my vote to Cosette Cosmos, the Terror of the Stars.
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Post by Blackhead on Mar 15, 2016 14:06:51 GMT -8
Oh boy, Marx. Normally I find myself agreeing with you on most subjects, but this threesome bullcrap is no bueno. I talked about circle jerking before, and this is exactly what I meant. If there will be no individual Kryska or Icari route so be it, this shouldn't justify what I'd call 'the fanservice/clusterfuck route.' Just think ahead for two seconds and imagine how this plays out from a story perspective: Kayto ditches all other girls (who have serious romantic feelings for him (Asaga), he has history with (Ava)) just to have a crazy sex orgy with characters, who appear to have SERIOUS, twisted complexes and issues, all this during an intergalactic war. He'd become the biggest, fucking joke ever. A childish and pathetic starship Captain, who has no controll over himself whatsoever. Kayto had a hard time, he should at least retain an ounce of dignity. No matter how hard you tried to implement that, the conversations/interactions would always feel laughable, awkward and cringeworthy. The whole premise is retarded on multiple levels and compulsorily leads to horrible characterization. You think a love triangle is terrible? Take a love triangle and remove the arrows and you get this crap - so basically the middle part of Lib. Day in even worse. All involved characters can only lose, the story suffers, the only winner is someone who enjoys the extra explicit content. Typically someone who doesn't give a shit about the said characters and their portrayal anyway. I'll just say that I've read more than one case where they took that kind of route seriously with all of its serious implications (loving 2 people at the same time and figuring how to face that love against society's standard) and they execute it fairly well, so I can assure you I at least am thinking of something very different and clearly not an "orgy route". Your lack of faith is understandable though, specially if we get little time to develop it. (Also, I personally think love triangles are awesome; just very hard to do well without falling into old cliches and stupidity) Finally; most people who enjoy extra explicit point of one character in particular is because they care about that character. If they didn't care they would have enough with any kind of explicit content. People don't spend over 20$ in something they don't care when you have all the free Porn in the internet. There are actually tons of problems I have with your argumentation here, and I planned to kick a giant post where I elaborate on this whole matter in extreme detail. To be honest though, I don't really see the 'clusterfuck' route happening regardless. But should the day come and it appears that this indeed becomes a possibility, I will make that ominous post, and we will have a conversation! It's just not worth your or my time as of now, too much speculation and only hints. Consider this topic droped/on ice from my side for the moment. I hope you're cool with that.  |
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Post by Marx-93 on Mar 15, 2016 14:19:21 GMT -8
There are actually tons of problems I have with your argumentation here, and I planned to kick a giant post where I elaborate on this whole matter in extreme detail. To be honest though, I don't really see the 'clusterfuck' route happening regardless. But should the day come and it appears that this indeed becomes a possibility, I will make that ominous post, and we will have a conversation! It's just not worth your or my time as of now, too much speculation and only hints. Consider this topic droped/on ice from my side for the moment. I hope you're cool with that. Not a problem, we're cool |
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Post by knightoblivion on Mar 15, 2016 16:00:38 GMT -8
First, what the hell?!? I leave for a day and a half and suddenly Cosette is approaching Ava?!?! WHAT MADNESS HATH THOU WROUGHT UPON THIS PLACE OF DISCOURSE??
Secondly, I hope that Kyrska and Icari become their own couple on the ship without stuff from Kayto. Partly because I think it would be adorable, partly so that some of the other thirsty as hell females will have something new to gossip about besides Kayto's affections. Threesomes just aren't a thing for me, and the ones I do see feel very unrealistic and contrived. If a good one came about, I wouldn't be against it per say. I simply wouldn't support it until it was good because I don't believe in it's potential.
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Post by shieldwall on Mar 15, 2016 16:04:10 GMT -8
Now, I don't want to look like the violent guy here but I reeeally hope they're giving us the choice to shoot her in the head You already have that option. Spoiler!!! >< But good u.u |
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Post by SharrOfRyuvia on Mar 15, 2016 16:09:47 GMT -8
First, what the hell?!? I leave for a day and a half and suddenly Cosette is approaching Ava?!?! WHAT MADNESS HATH THOU WROUGHT UPON THIS PLACE OF DISCOURSE?? Secondly, I hope that Kyrska and Icari become their own couple on the ship without stuff from Kayto. Partly because I think it would be adorable, partly so that some of the other thirsty as hell females will have something new to gossip about besides Kayto's affections. Threesomes just aren't a thing for me, and the ones I do see feel very unrealistic and contrived. If a good one came about, I wouldn't be against it per say. I simply wouldn't support it until it was good because I don't believe in it's potential. It would also be realistic in illustrating that not every girl is someone the protagonist can get with. Come to think of it, I wonder what happens to whatever girl Kayto doesn't end with? I'm especially worried about Asaga, because... well, at the moment, Fontana's faction was centered at Ryuvia Prime as a bastion world... and Asaga DID admit she thought Fontana was "good lookin' for a Red"... and Fontana always did come across like some kind of nobility/royalty... and he has been deferentially kind to her before, and... Do I need to say more, or are your imaginations already taking care of that? |
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Post by worstwaifu on Mar 15, 2016 17:35:00 GMT -8
I had to vote for Cosette because I could never see her as a real enemy and she impressed me somehow the most. Now, I don't want to look like the violent guy here but I reeeally hope they're giving us the choice to shoot her in the head But you can already blow up her Ryder, if you really want to kill her.
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Post by Somasam on Mar 15, 2016 22:17:25 GMT -8
Wow, a couple days and cosette is already 4th... damn. I mean I liked her, it was just my impression that not too many people actually saved her and fixed up her ryder. Glad I am not the only one to have some sort of appreciation for her. (Speaking of which, does anyone know what happens to Cosette if you were to save her, but trash her Ryder? Does she get saved by Ava when she evacuates the ship?)
On the other hand, I personally didn't vote Kryska for the threesome with Icari. I don't necessarily hate that idea, I would just rather have each girl be a separate route that we can take. I like her enough as a character to want a more personal relationship with her for her own sake.
Though I did like the idea someone else brought up earlier. What happens to the other girls at the end when you make your choice (or dare I say blasphemy and say if you were to choose none of the girls?) Kind of like in Mass Effect, I know a lot of the characters had further interactions with the other characters, and some even got into relationships. Like Garius and Tali if you didn't romance either of them. Or the two engineers that you could keep from the second game. I would like to see more interactions between the girls themselves and what relationships they could develop at the end of the game. Like Asaga and Sola being friends at the end. Or possibly Ava and Claude developing some sort of grudging vitriolic best buds kinda thing. And of course they very much talked about IcarixKryska relationship, either platonic or romantic, could form as well if neither was romanced.
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Post by worstwaifu on Mar 16, 2016 6:29:01 GMT -8
(Speaking of which, does anyone know what happens to Cosette if you were to save her, but trash her Ryder? Does she get saved by Ava when she evacuates the ship?) Gonna need to second this request for knowledge. I don't know who is heartless enough to destroy the Havoc. It's just a big purple Ryder that don't know it's doing nothing wrong. |
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Post by SharrOfRyuvia on Mar 16, 2016 8:58:50 GMT -8
(Speaking of which, does anyone know what happens to Cosette if you were to save her, but trash her Ryder? Does she get saved by Ava when she evacuates the ship?) Gonna need to second this request for knowledge. I don't know who is heartless enough to destroy the Havoc. It's just a big purple Ryder that don't know it's doing nothing wrong. I think most people who did it would have done so purely to see how pissed off they could make Cosette when she finds out it's been scrapped.  Though at the same time, I'm not really sure the Ryder WAS ever really destroyed as opposed to being left idle and unrepaired in the hangar bay, given Kryska's love for heavy Ryders - that way, Cosette could still use it to escape with; she just couldn't fight in it. Though if anyone knows different, feel free to correct me. |
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Post by worstwaifu on Mar 16, 2016 9:31:42 GMT -8
It occurs to me that it would hurt Cosette far more to paint the Havoc pink, replace the weapons with flowers and lollipops, and write 'a little girl rides this' on the front.
Ava would never approve the budget expense, though.
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Post by ridaxus on Mar 16, 2016 9:32:22 GMT -8
Even though Sola is my favorite, since she's in the lead I have to vote for Kryska mostly because her speeches at the end of the betas when she was near the top were so cute and awesome. I wish they had done what they did with the previous game and put all the Waifu Wars clips in a bonus section in the full game, because now I can't get enough of the Blue Haired One
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Post by Gamerjunkie27 on Mar 16, 2016 10:50:16 GMT -8
It occurs to me that it would hurt Cosette far more to paint the Havoc pink, replace the weapons with flowers and lollipops, and write 'a little girl rides this' on the front. Ava would never approve the budget expense, though. Well, I'm sure there's SOME pink paint on the ship somewhere. The Bianca would need it to cover up battle damage and prevent corrosion. Flowers and lolipops... Don't know about those. The writing would be the easiest to do. |
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Post by foujiz on Mar 16, 2016 11:58:11 GMT -8
It occurs to me that it would hurt Cosette far more to paint the Havoc pink, replace the weapons with flowers and lollipops, and write 'a little girl rides this' on the front. Ava would never approve the budget expense, though. So evil, that would actually be a really funny thing. However, I'm pretty sure she would prefer to die than to pilot this monstrosity. Or she would not rest before seeing Kayto dead. |
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Post by stelovitch on Mar 16, 2016 12:20:18 GMT -8
Well, I'm happy! Go go team Ryuvians!
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Post by Nemjen on Mar 16, 2016 12:37:43 GMT -8
Wait when did Cosette shoot up in popularity? I know the game was called Liberation Day folks but I did not know people were getting liberated from the standard paths onto the 'loli space pirate' one. I do not think I will ever understand you voting data. |
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Post by admiralcheese on Mar 16, 2016 12:44:14 GMT -8
The future has come. Loli Space Pirates are in fourth. One vote away from tying the Queen of Paperwork...
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Post by valikdu on Mar 16, 2016 12:55:04 GMT -8
Let's light the sky up!
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Post by worstwaifu on Mar 16, 2016 16:28:05 GMT -8
I didn't even think of making her pilot it. I'm assuming that if she got loose at any point, she would remove Kayto's guts by hand.
You are clever at thinking of proper torture, and I was the person who thought to myself: if Cosette was in Academy, she'd end up in an oversized Academy uniform.
I dunno. I changed my vote from Kryska to Cose-chan, and I think some other new people came in and voted or even changed their votes as well.
Either way, the fact that she's less evil than the Alliance now (still more openly vicious) has helped her achieve less of a moral low ground.
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A childish and pathetic starship Captain, who has no controll over himself whatsoever. Kayto had a hard time, he should at least retain an ounce of dignity. No matter how hard you tried to implement that, the conversations/interactions would always feel laughable, awkward and cringeworthy. The whole premise is retarded on multiple levels and compulsorily leads to horrible characterization. You think a love triangle is terrible? Take a love triangle and remove the arrows and you get this crap - so basically the middle part of Lib. Day in even worse. 
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